Thanks for the detailed explanation! Look forward to playing around with Speakersaudiothing wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:31 pmSpeakers is definitely replacing Speaker (now discontinued).stuman wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:15 pm Instant purchase for me. So does Speakers completely replace Speaker and Megaphone, but not Fog Convolver?
We decided to keep Megaphone alive, for now, as you can do a few extra things there (trigger noise, button/burst noise, and the feedback algorithm is different).
Fog Convolver is getting a big update soon as well. We'll try to push Fog Convolver towards reverbs/spaces and for experimental stuff (if you want to mangle and act directly on the impulses).
While Speakers was is meant to be a post-production dedicated plugin.
AudioThing NEW Speakers Plugin - Microphone and Speaker Simulations - Update v1.3
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- KVRist
- 205 posts since 27 Apr, 2005 from ATL
Intel CoreI7, ASUS mobo, 32GB RAM, RME Babyface, Win10 64-bit
- KVRian
- 1488 posts since 7 Jan, 2004
It reminds me of Speakerphone. I prefer Speaker's interface but the plugin is simpler and has a far smaller range of devices / impulse responses. It's also much less expensive 
The more I hang around at KVR the less music I make.
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- KVRAF
- 4720 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder
Economists are predicting a downturn the likes of which we have never seen and here's a $54 upgrade hmm for what is your most expensive plugin yet, by quite some margin. I'm going to be "That Guy" and say phew, no can do.
- KVRAF
- 7633 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
Watched the video. This plugin sounds seriously legit. Way better than Audio Ease Speakerphone.audiothing wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:02 pm Please, consider that the full price is $/€ 99. The additional discounts (45% and 50%) are going to stay for longer than the intro price (probably all year long).
Speakers is a completely new plugin, with many many new features not available in Speaker, Megaphone, and Fog Convolver.
We are also working on a new version of Fog Convolver that will be almost entirely focused on reverbs, spaces, and experimental IRs, so the two plugins will have different targets.
Also, I love the name of f⊗g Convolver. You guys are serious math nerds!
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
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- KVRAF
- 4718 posts since 25 Mar, 2016 from Seattle
Wow, that’s quite the compliment.jamcat wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 3:49 amWatched the video. This plugin sounds seriously legit. Way better than Audio Ease Speakerphone.audiothing wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:02 pm Please, consider that the full price is $/€ 99. The additional discounts (45% and 50%) are going to stay for longer than the intro price (probably all year long).
Speakers is a completely new plugin, with many many new features not available in Speaker, Megaphone, and Fog Convolver.
We are also working on a new version of Fog Convolver that will be almost entirely focused on reverbs, spaces, and experimental IRs, so the two plugins will have different targets.
Also, I love the name of f⊗g Convolver. You guys are serious math nerds!
In what ways is it better than Audio Ease Speakerphone?
- KVRAF
- 7633 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
Just based on the demos, to me it just sounds more tangible. Like you think "that sounds like a megaphone" rather than "that sounds like a megaphone impulse." 
But maybe I am also being biased by the price difference. $400 can buy a lot of good will.
But maybe I am also being biased by the price difference. $400 can buy a lot of good will.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
- KVRist
- 351 posts since 24 Aug, 2017
Is there a further discount for customers (like myself) who owns all qualifying products?audiothing wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:02 pm Please, consider that the full price is $/€ 99. The additional discounts (45% and 50%) are going to stay for longer than the intro price (probably all year long).
Speakers is a completely new plugin, with many many new features not available in Speaker, Megaphone, and Fog Convolver.
We are also working on a new version of Fog Convolver that will be almost entirely focused on reverbs, spaces, and experimental IRs, so the two plugins will have different targets.
- KVRist
- 351 posts since 24 Aug, 2017
Another similar plugin is Mcdsp futzbox which has loads of speaker impulses but I never really clicked with it, so looking forward to trying this.Timfonie wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:48 pm It reminds me of Speakerphone. I prefer Speaker's interface but the plugin is simpler and has a far smaller range of devices / impulse responses. It's also much less expensive![]()
- Banned
- 1792 posts since 8 Sep, 2019 from Calenberg
The link to download the manual is broken.
- KVRian
- 687 posts since 29 Nov, 2002 from Finland
Nice! I have been using Speakerphone for ages, but the ancient interface and lack of updates has kind of driven me away. This looks much better, even if features are more limited (which is not always a bad thing). Thanks, will definitely check it out!
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- KVRist
- 98 posts since 25 Dec, 2019
so the returning customers' price reduction is parallel to the intro discount, not additional?audiothing wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:02 pm Please, consider that the full price is $/€ 99. The additional discounts (45% and 50%) are going to stay for longer than the intro price (probably all year long).
Speakers is a completely new plugin, with many many new features not available in Speaker, Megaphone, and Fog Convolver.
We are also working on a new version of Fog Convolver that will be almost entirely focused on reverbs, spaces, and experimental IRs, so the two plugins will have different targets.
already have all the qualifying products and the now discontinued speaker has been the least useful for me. definitely interested in the new one!
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Obsolete462444 Obsolete462444 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=462444
- Banned
- 465 posts since 15 Apr, 2020
This looks amazing. After I watched the introduction video I immediately felt an urge to buy this. But to be completely honest - the price tag is a bit steep in these economically troubling times.
I think that in general digital software providers have to re-assess their pricing schemes in light of the looming economic crisis, especially when it comes to products and services that are not essential (meaning, one can survive without them, unlike food and housing, which is fundamental to one's well being or tools that are indispensable to create an income).
No hate at all, you are one of my favorite plugin companies and I know that you have given out freebies in the past, so this is just a well-meaning observation.
I think that in general digital software providers have to re-assess their pricing schemes in light of the looming economic crisis, especially when it comes to products and services that are not essential (meaning, one can survive without them, unlike food and housing, which is fundamental to one's well being or tools that are indispensable to create an income).
No hate at all, you are one of my favorite plugin companies and I know that you have given out freebies in the past, so this is just a well-meaning observation.
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 17921 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
Like you said yourself, these products are not essential.Kazi7 wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:19 amI think that in general digital software providers have to re-assess their pricing schemes in light of the looming economic crisis, especially when it comes to products and services that are not essential (meaning, one can survive without them, unlike food and housing, which is fundamental to one's well being or tools that are indispensable to create an income).
Why assume that a developer is also not subject to the same economic pressures? Why should they cut their margins, especially when the same economic crisis will mean less potential sales?
This plugin isn't really re-inventing the wheel. I think it's greatest advantage is in the fact that it's all easily accessible within the same interface, and no doubt, given the developer, it'll be of high quality. But I can't see any magic here that couldn't be approximated with various freebie plugins and free IR's. That's not to say that I am not interested. Just that it'll be a "someday, perhaps" plugin, for me.
If you really are going to be affected by the impending issues, then perhaps you should not be buying any non-essential items, regardless of price
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Obsolete462444 Obsolete462444 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=462444
- Banned
- 465 posts since 15 Apr, 2020
Thanks for the feedback el-bo!el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:48 am
Like you said yourself, these products are not essential.
Why assume that a developer is also not subject to the same economic pressures? Why should they cut their margins, especially when the same economic crisis will mean less potential sales?
This plugin isn't really re-inventing the wheel. I think it's greatest advantage is in the fact that it's all easily accessible within the same interface, and no doubt, given the developer, it'll be of high quality. But I can't see any magic here that couldn't be approximated with various freebie plugins and free IR's. That's not to say that I am not interested. Just that it'll be a "someday, perhaps" plugin, for me.
I agree on most of what you say, even though you wrongly state, that I assume the developer wouldn't be subject to the same issues. Where do you take this from?
In fact, in times of economic crisis, it would be advisable to any provider of non-essential goods to lower their prices in their own best interest. This will increase demand and result in increased sales numbers, which will compensate for the eventual loss of revenue per unit (less revenue per unit sold, but exponentially more units sold = more revenue once a certain compensatory treshold is reached). That's economic theory 101!
Yes, the integration of various additional functions within one interface is exactly what makes this plugin special. Also, it seems that the impulse responses used here are of a very high quality, because I know at least one other product (not Speakerphone) that tried to cover the exact same sonic grounds, but failed due to inferior impulse responses used. In fact, the speakers and devices in this other product do not even sound like they were captured as impulse responses, but they sound like simple bandpass filters set to different bandwiths - total trash.
Yes, most likely similar results can be achieved with some of the publicly available or commercial impulse response collections and additional processing, but this has everything in one neat interface!
So, I do indeed appreciate AudioThing's efforts and see the quality and sophistication of his products, which often put them a few steps ahead of the competition. Still, I find the price a bit steep - that's my opinion (freedom of expression).
- KVRAF
- 14429 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Planet Earth, Somewhere
About ten years ago I had bought Speakerphone 1 on discount for $307.... Always had graphic issues with it, which they fixed in Speakerphone 2, and i could update for $149... I declined... i forgot i even have a license for speakerphone 1 till this.
i had bought futzbox a few years ago and used it very sparingly at the most.
I tried this for about 30 minutes yesterday then bought it.
Thank you for making this. I hope over the years it is developed and expanded.
rsp
i had bought futzbox a few years ago and used it very sparingly at the most.
I tried this for about 30 minutes yesterday then bought it.
Thank you for making this. I hope over the years it is developed and expanded.
rsp
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