Synapse Audio OBSESSION is now available!

[zvenx]

I tried the demo but I am not hearing any real advantages over the Arturia version.
Maybe Synapse were sucker punched by Arturia? Knocked down and out before they even got out of the ring.
This maybe will sound strange but if Synapse have released their version first things could have been different?

Once again proving how sound aesthetics is very personal.
Before I heard Obsession, I was very disappointed by Arturia's version. After hearing Obsession, beyond the GUI, preset browser and variety in presets I can't possible imagine wanting to own the Arturia's version unless it was close to free, cause I am a vst junkie.
rsp

[Marco Leronso]

Once again proving how sound aesthetics is very personal.
Before I heard Obsession, I was very disappointed by Arturia's version. After hearing Obsession, beyond the GUI, preset browser and variety in presets I can't possible imagine wanting to own the Arturia's version unless it was close to free, cause I am a vst junkie.
rsp

Quite right you are.
I just hear sounds, I will never be a vst junkie slave, I am just not that sophisticated.

[rezoneight]

I tried the demo but I am not hearing any real advantages over the Arturia version.
Maybe Synapse were sucker punched by Arturia? Knocked down and out before they even got out of the ring.
This maybe will sound strange but if Synapse have released their version first things could have been different?

Once again proving how sound aesthetics is very personal.
Before I heard Obsession, I was very disappointed by Arturia's version. After hearing Obsession, beyond the GUI, preset browser and variety in presets I can't possible imagine wanting to own the Arturia's version unless it was close to free, cause I am a vst junkie.
rsp

If you were a vst junkie you'd want both. Kinda the point of the term "junkie"

[zvenx]

I tried the demo but I am not hearing any real advantages over the Arturia version.
Maybe Synapse were sucker punched by Arturia? Knocked down and out before they even got out of the ring.
This maybe will sound strange but if Synapse have released their version first things could have been different?

Once again proving how sound aesthetics is very personal.
Before I heard Obsession, I was very disappointed by Arturia's version. After hearing Obsession, beyond the GUI, preset browser and variety in presets I can't possible imagine wanting to own the Arturia's version unless it was close to free, cause I am a vst junkie.
rsp

If you were a vst junkie you'd want both. Kinda the point of the term "junkie"

Lol. only if it was close to free though.
I am controlled junkie?

but to my point which I know will be unpopular

"OB-Xa is a hugely iconic synth behind Van Halen’s hit ‘Jump’ and albums by Prince, Queen, Bon Jovi, Billy Idol, Chaka Khan, The Police, and more. Its dangerous, all-embracing sound is perfect for expressing the epic, heart-crushing drama of life. It’s used today by the likes of Flume, Chrome Sparks, Calvin Harris, and Venetian Snares, entering a new dimension of electronic music. Our faithful reproduction of OB-Xa with extra inspiration taken from the OB-X and OB-8 for the most satisfying result will be perfect for keyboardists and synth programmers. "

I think Arturia gets both the first part and the second, but Synapse gets more the second part....

Apart from the GUI and Patch Browser that is my only real disappointment, which I suspected would happen before I even got to play it.

Anyway that will change over time, as I am sure there will be third party banks for it.
And yes I have heard the, you can program it yourself camp, my position is the same.... Sound Design is an art form, you either have it or don't. Listen to the one BT patch, LD Eighties Melo, if I sat with Obsession for 3 months working 18x7, I would never get something as good as that patch, however that patch can motivate me to play so many different things with it, instantly.

rsp

[rezoneight]

Anyway that will change over time, as I am sure there will be third party banks for it.
And yes I have heard the, you can program it yourself camp, my position is the same.... Sound Design is an art form, you either have it or don't. Listen to the one BT patch, LD Eighties Melo, if I sat with Obsession for 3 months working 18x7, I would never get something as good as that patch, however that patch can motivate me to play so many different things with it, instantly.

rsp

Yes the presets sound fantastic and I've always been a preset fan. Good presets are such a great inspiration. They're also obviously a great way to learn how a synth works. Its like Dune 3, presets in that instrument blew me away. Such great sound.

[BONES]

Finally got a chance to read this. Great stuff! I'd highly encourage everyone to give this a read.

Sorry, when it suggests twice in the first few sentences that the sound of ancient analogue sound is "unrivalled", then nothing else the article has to say is worth reading. The whole thing is built on a false premise.

I myself am hoping for an SEM Filter and the older Oscillators, all changed (between OB-X and OB-Xa) with a switch in the back panel (kind of like what the Legend Early vs Late Model does (yes I know it is a completely different architectural type switch)

For that to happen you will need to buy a SEM and an OB-X, then loan them to Rich for a couple of years so he can model them accurately. So you'll need 10 or 12 grand up front but you should be able to sell them again once Rich is finished with them.

But yes small is much too small, Large too large and so Medium is what I have to do, but wished it was indeed bigger.

Really? I wish the Small was 50% smaller, everything is much bigger than it needs to be for me to read it. If I compare to Thorn, Thorn has more than twice as many controls, yet the small size is about 25% smaller than OBSession, but it's just as usable.

I would not have included two triangles, but triangle for osc 1 and sine for osc 2.

If you did that it would cease to be an OB-Xa emulation. You can add stuff to extend the original but once you start replacing original features with new things, it is no longer going to be an emulation.

I tried the demo but I am not hearing any real advantages over the Arturia version.
Maybe Synapse were sucker punched by Arturia? Knocked down and out before they even got out of the ring.

If you really believe this, then it indicates you have no clue what you are talking about. Read the other 9 pages of the thread and you will see you are in a minority of one in thinking the Arturia synth sounds anywhere near as close to the original as this does.

[revvy]

But yes small is much too small, Large too large and so Medium is what I have to do, but wished it was indeed bigger.
rsp

Same here.

Or even make it completely resizable like TAL's 101, love that flexibility.

But whatever, despite some quirks which may or may not be HW influenced (have to use a mod slot to adjust noise/OSC volume??) the interface overall is a joy to use. Love the colour choice, very nice vibe to work in for me.

Is some kind of key-stoke thing possible to be able to flip between front and back of UI?

[Teksonik]

This maybe will sound strange but if Synapse have released their version first things could have been different?

It wouldn't matter which was released first the sound of each plugin would not change.

Oh my apologies I had no idea post count equated to anything.

We've had a few "sock puppets" recently who are either regular members who have created a second account usually to troll or former members who were banned in the past.

One of the signs is low post count.

[zerocrossing]

Negatives are that it feels like they've had to sacrifice some quality of life implementations in order to be faithful to the original and to stick to a particular GUI aesthetic. The result is it's not quite as intuitive compared to the Arturia, and it sucks to have to lose a modulation matrix slot to control things like Noise or Osc 2 volumes. Still, it's a relatively simple synth to use.

I thought the same thing. I found myself flipping around from back to front a lot. I always wonder why people don’t implement a system like Omnisphere where you can right click-assign and have a little mini mod pane show up, and then if you want the full mod matrix you can bring up it’s own window.

[tony10000]

Negatives are that it feels like they've had to sacrifice some quality of life implementations in order to be faithful to the original and to stick to a particular GUI aesthetic. The result is it's not quite as intuitive compared to the Arturia, and it sucks to have to lose a modulation matrix slot to control things like Noise or Osc 2 volumes. Still, it's a relatively simple synth to use.

I thought the same thing. I found myself flipping around from back to front a lot. I always wonder why people don’t implement a system like Omnisphere where you can right click-assign and have a little mini mod pane show up, and then if you want the full mod matrix you can bring up it’s own window.

Clicking on the "Obsession" name flips it easily. One mouse click.

[revvy]

Synthesis question:

Gold French KS, lovely powerful preset. Filter Env assigned to OCS 2 tone. Sync enabled. Why...? What's the sound design decision here?

[zerocrossing]

Once again proving how sound aesthetics is very personal.
Before I heard Obsession, I was very disappointed by Arturia's version. After hearing Obsession, beyond the GUI, preset browser and variety in presets I can't possible imagine wanting to own the Arturia's version unless it was close to free, cause I am a vst junkie.
rsp

Quite right you are.
I just hear sounds, I will never be a vst junkie slave, I am just not that sophisticated.

There’s nothing wrong with the Arturia version. Sounds great. A bit more focused, and the parameter ranges are oddly very different, but I’ve made some great sounds with it and I will continue to. I bought Obsession without even demoing it because I knew it would be great and even if the only additional feature was MPE compatibility, it would be worth it to me. Arturia’s got the cool function generator. Arturia has a better UI and I like how they deal with voice pan and spread, but Obsession is a lot more flexible. Whatever. They’re both state of the art analog emulations from my standpoint. Some people just like to hate on Arturia because their old synths are not up to par.

What does strike me as interesting is how very different they are from each other. Not just subtle things, but things like the resonance sounding very different. Not better or worse, but like from different filters on different synths. The oscillators sound very similar, but if you told me one was based on a different revision that used a different filter, I’d believe you. I kind of like the wide range of the Arturia a little more, but there’s a bit more wool in the Synapse. I really like the extra peak in Arturia’s resonance. I’m happy to have both. Also, for $149 I got OB-Xa, Synthi, CZ and Mellotron V, so that’s a great deal.

[electro]

I myself am hoping for an SEM Filter and the older Oscillators, all changed (between OB-X and OB-Xa) with a switch in the back panel (kind of like what the Legend Early vs Late Model does (yes I know it is a completely different architectural type switch)

For that to happen you will need to buy a SEM and an OB-X, then loan them to Rich for a couple of years so he can model them accurately. So you'll need 10 or 12 grand up front but you should be able to sell them again once Rich is finished with them.

Sonic Projects OP-X ProII and Brainworx bx_Oberhausen are based on the SEM architecture and both are extremely good emulations. I haven't got to fire up Obsession yet (now owning all three), but my immediate suggestion for any seeking the OB-X architecture would be to dial your Obsession patche into OP-X which I know from experience is parameter accurate to the hardware OB-X. This extreme accuracy is what distinguishes between OP-X ProII from OBxd.

[Dombaeb]

God damn. Almost 3 months Instruments forum on kvr totally “Obsessed” We have discussing topic, beta testing topic, fake release topic, actual release topic and who knows what future holds!

[zerocrossing]

Negatives are that it feels like they've had to sacrifice some quality of life implementations in order to be faithful to the original and to stick to a particular GUI aesthetic. The result is it's not quite as intuitive compared to the Arturia, and it sucks to have to lose a modulation matrix slot to control things like Noise or Osc 2 volumes. Still, it's a relatively simple synth to use.

I thought the same thing. I found myself flipping around from back to front a lot. I always wonder why people don’t implement a system like Omnisphere where you can right click-assign and have a little mini mod pane show up, and then if you want the full mod matrix you can bring up it’s own window.

Clicking on the "Obsession" name flips it easily. One mouse click.

No manure, Mycroft. When you do that, you lose the UI so if you want to tweak the filter cutoff, you have to click back, then click back to adjust the mod matrix amount, then click back. Many mouse clicks flipping between states. Look at how RePro handles it. Much cleaner and more user friendly.