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chk071 wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:28 pm
exmatproton wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:22 pm
Rends wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:20 pm
chk071 wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:19 pm So he's not entitled to have a opinion?
Sure but might be biased
I worked as a beta tester on Obsession as well. I still prefer Arturia's OB-Xa. It is all so subjective. And that is not to say i don't like Obsession. I love it.
You are not entitled to that. You either love or hate. No grey shades! :smack:
I am sorry.......let me put it this way; i love both!

Obsession :hug: OB-Xa V

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BONES wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:10 am
e-crooner wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 3:55 pm A suggestion: I can hardly see the x in disabled voices. I suggest making the LED's bi-color. The LED is off when the voice is disabled, green when enabled and red when sounding.
A suggestion: Get your eyes tested or buy a new computer monitor.
Also, since it seems one has to click 7 or even 15 times in order to select a sort of mono mode, how about enabling double clicking any voice button in order to make it the only enabled voice and double clicking it again in order to turn on all voices again?
What sort of idiot would select 16 voice poly and then want to turn off 15 of them? You really are grasping at straws.
There is a little inconsistency: In the 8-voice mode the section title "voice adjustment" only applies to the edit, in the 16-voice mode it applies to muting as well.
There is no section titled "voice adjustment" in 8 voice mode, it's titled "Voice Adjustment/Edit" so ti is perfectly consistent with functionality.

You really are determined to find fault, aren't you? What's the matter, did Richard run over your dog or something?
I am pretty sure I am not the only one who has a hard time recognizing those x's in muted voices. I was not even using the small GUI. The big GUI is unfortunately slightly too high for my monitor.

Well, you never know what people want to do. But even muting 7 voices manually is rather inefficient by modern standards :hihi:

Sorry, I do think that they section titles are different.
In 8-voice mode you have "voice adjustment edit" and "active/mute voice" as section titles of the same hierarchy level.
In 16-voice mode you have "voice adjustment" as the major section title with two sub-sections entitled "edit" and "active/mute".

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btw...the weirdest thing in this plugin is the FX section;

Audio -> reverb -> delay -> chorus -> output.

UI: -> delay -> reverb -> chorus ->

I hope that will get a small overhaul. So that the UI shows the order of the FX.

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I'd also recommend to do what already has been suggested, change the order of fx. It should be Chorus -> Delay -> Reverb in my opinion. Or, even better, make the order changeable.

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e-crooner wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:36 pm I am pretty sure I am not the only one who has a hard time recognizing those x's in muted voices. I was not even using the small GUI. The big GUI is unfortunately slightly too high for my monitor.

Well, you never know what people want to do. But even muting 7 voices manually is rather inefficient by modern standards :hihi:
For me the differcne betwen activa and muted voices loks very clear, even if i have a greater distance from my display (which is a notebook) and the the medium sized GUI.

Muting 7 voices in 8 voice mode is not a real issue. Takes less than 10 seconds.
Of course it makes no sense to use the 16 voice mode and then deactivate 15 voices.
On the other hand the 16 voice mode might be necessary in Split mode when one part has 8 voices and the other one just a single voice.
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chk071 wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:44 pm I'd also recommend to do what already has been suggested, change the order of fx. It should be Chorus -> Delay -> Reverb in my opinion. Or, even better, make the order changeable.
I agree with this. A request in that sense has been sent to Richard. But it's his call in the end. Let's hope.
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chk071 wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:44 pm I'd also recommend to do what already has been suggested, change the order of fx. It should be Chorus -> Delay -> Reverb in my opinion. Or, even better, make the order changeable.
Yeah, wrote about that in the beta forum as well. We'll see

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chk071 wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:44 pm I'd also recommend to do what already has been suggested, change the order of fx. It should be Chorus -> Delay -> Reverb in my opinion. Or, even better, make the order changeable.
If it changes the sound of existing presets it should NOT be changed within a fixed order but i agree having an option to reorder the FXs, at least the position of the Chorus FX (e.g. either first or last one).
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exmatproton wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:26 pm
e-crooner wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:24 pm So, is there no audio of that saw bass patch? I am pretty sure I can nail it in Sylenth1 :hihi:
2 pages back, at the top :D
You mean this?
exmatproton wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:19 pm Random Notes Obsession and OB-Xa V

https://soundcloud.com/exmatproton/ob-x ... 7kPNgG6aeM

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Ingonator wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:49 pm
chk071 wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:44 pm I'd also recommend to do what already has been suggested, change the order of fx. It should be Chorus -> Delay -> Reverb in my opinion. Or, even better, make the order changeable.
If it changes the sound of existing presets it should NOT be changed within a fixed order but i agree having an option to reorder the FXs, at least the position of the Chorus FX (e.g. either first or last one).
It will change the sound of existing presets, that's true. Maybe there's a way to not break it. Developers are smarter than I am. :)

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chk071 wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:51 pm
Ingonator wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:49 pm
chk071 wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:44 pm I'd also recommend to do what already has been suggested, change the order of fx. It should be Chorus -> Delay -> Reverb in my opinion. Or, even better, make the order changeable.
If it changes the sound of existing presets it should NOT be changed within a fixed order but i agree having an option to reorder the FXs, at least the position of the Chorus FX (e.g. either first or last one).
It will change the sound of existing presets, that's true. Maybe there's a way to not break it. Developers are smarter than I am. :)
Actually we only need a switch to have the Chorus either at 3rd (current) or 1st position.
We already have the Delay routed into the Reverb which seems to be OK.

I just posted this idea at the corresponding dicussion at the beta forum.

If free reordering of all FXs would not be problem that is of course nice too.
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Win 10 Home 64-bit / mobile i7-7700HQ 2.8 GHz / 16GB RAM //
Live 10 Suite / Cubase Pro 9.5 / Pro Tools Ultimate 2021 // NI Komplete Kontrol S61 Mk1

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e-crooner wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:51 pm
exmatproton wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:26 pm
e-crooner wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:24 pm So, is there no audio of that saw bass patch? I am pretty sure I can nail it in Sylenth1 :hihi:
2 pages back, at the top :D
You mean this?
exmatproton wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:19 pm Random Notes Obsession and OB-Xa V

https://soundcloud.com/exmatproton/ob-x ... 7kPNgG6aeM
hehehe..yes

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Ingonator wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:54 pm
chk071 wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:51 pm
Ingonator wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:49 pm
chk071 wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:44 pm I'd also recommend to do what already has been suggested, change the order of fx. It should be Chorus -> Delay -> Reverb in my opinion. Or, even better, make the order changeable.
If it changes the sound of existing presets it should NOT be changed within a fixed order but i agree having an option to reorder the FXs, at least the position of the Chorus FX (e.g. either first or last one).
It will change the sound of existing presets, that's true. Maybe there's a way to not break it. Developers are smarter than I am. :)
Actually we only need a switch to have the Chorus either at 3rd (current) or 1st position.
We already have the Delay routed into the Reverb which seems to be OK.

I just posted this idea at the corresponding dicussion at the beta forum.

If free reordering of all FXs would not be problem that is of course nice too.
no...the reverb is routed into the delay

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FWIW when using external FXs i mostly use Chorus>Delay>Reverb as an order.
Ingo Weidner
Win 10 Home 64-bit / mobile i7-7700HQ 2.8 GHz / 16GB RAM //
Live 10 Suite / Cubase Pro 9.5 / Pro Tools Ultimate 2021 // NI Komplete Kontrol S61 Mk1

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the whole idea of VST and plugins was being able to use your own choice of FX after the softsynth.
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