Learning the Piano

Chords, scales, harmony, melody, etc.
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Jbravo
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Post Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:19 am

vurt wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:17 am
hit the black and white bits till you find something you like.
that's the method for a lot of electronic/idm music
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fmr
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Re: Learning the Piano

Post Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:38 am

Jbravo wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:19 am
vurt wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:17 am
hit the black and white bits till you find something you like.
that's the method for a lot of electronic/idm music
Or just hit the black keys. It's probably better to get some results right away :wink:
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vurt
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Re: Learning the Piano

Post Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:12 am

fmr wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:38 am
Jbravo wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:19 am
vurt wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:17 am
hit the black and white bits till you find something you like.
that's the method for a lot of electronic/idm music
Or just hit the black keys. It's probably better to get some results right away :wink:
guitar is much easier for a beginner.
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jancivil
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Re: Learning the Piano

Post Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:59 am

piano is hard
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Jbravo
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Re: Learning the Piano

Post Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:02 am

jancivil wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:59 am
piano is hard

I always thought it was the easiest, every note is easily playable unlike say a violin or trumpet

also I find the guitar quite baffling seeing as the same note can be played in lots of different places. Like how do you decide which is best?
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jancivil
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Re: Learning the Piano

Post Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:26 am

tone color, basically; then how accessible, where are your other fingers going to have to be.

G below middle C: open 3rd string; fret 5 on 4th string, bigger string; fret 10 on 5th, bigger string; fret 15 on 6th, bigger string.

Bigger string imparts a fatter tone.
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empphryio
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Re: Learning the Piano

Post Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:32 am

melkumew wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:39 am
Where to start from if I'm a complete beginner?
Find a song you like and figure it out. Memorize it. At the same time spend some time sight reading really super easy stuff. A well rounded pianist is good at both memorization and sight reading. Most pianists are good at only one. When sight reading don't look at your hands.

You don't have to do scales. Some do, some don't. Learning songs in a given key can work just as well. There are tons of technique exercises you can do like Hanon but that stuff is very boring and you're not going to become Ling Ling or whoever. Sight reading Czerny keeps it somewhat fun at least.

For memorization fur elise or the slow movement if moonlight sonata are fine. My 5 year old can play those already (small hand arrangement for moonlight.)

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Re: Learning the Piano

Post Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:35 am

Jbravo wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:02 am
jancivil wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:59 am
piano is hard

I always thought it was the easiest, every note is easily playable unlike say a violin or trumpet

also I find the guitar quite baffling seeing as the same note can be played in lots of different places. Like how do you decide which is best?
The learning curve is just different. I play cello and piano. Cello is mostly just one note at a time. In some ways that's way easier. Sight reading is certainly easier. Piano is a kind of multitasking that just doesn't cone natural. Otoh, given two weeks you can accomplish more on piano as cello is fretless and it takes quite a while to develop your ear.

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Re: Learning the Piano

Post Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:09 am

I'm learning the piano myself right now and I've done it pretty much my own way. I learned a certain amount of theory and then I started to put my hands on the chords and move the chords around a bit with basic inversions and voiceleading.

It depends whether you are learning to compose or learning to play.

For composing, once I had harmony kinda studied, I then went to put two hands on the piano and innevitably got stripped back to two finger playing.

I tend to think of it as using two hands to drum on a table - really easy to do, so I'm approaching it from that point of view with a view to edit the notes and the rhythm on the fly.

In terms of rhythm, I think simple 8th notes are good to begin with and 16ths can be added later.

Also, in terms of composition, I think it's fun to think of your left hand right hand simple drumming patterns as bass and melody. All you gotta do is alter the notes as the rhythm goes by - for simpler music.

Hope that helps.

Oh yeah, arpeggios.

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BertKoor
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Re: Learning the Piano

Post Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:21 am

Having to choose between the piano and the violin, I prefer the piano.










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