Ircam Lab TS - Have you tried it?

[dayjob]

Flux Ircam Trax is the VST of this (Transformer ). But it priced a bit silly at 400 bucks. Sure cool tech, but very limited use imo.

thanks, yeah that is a laughable price. (checked a video of TRAX - much more powerful and involved than TS )

they have a sale now and then on the Ircam Studio bundle which is Trax, VerbV3, VerbSessionsV3. I think around $299 for the bundle when the sale happens. I'd imagine it comes up cheaper on black friday or whatever..

https://shop.flux.audio/en_US/products/ircam-studio

[XComposer]

TS is an excellent program for realistic stretching and transposing. Not conceived for a "creative" use, like PaulStretch or HourGlass or the like, but, in my experience, absolutely one of the best if your purpose is to transpose or stretch a sample without changes in the timbre and without altering the initial transient. It's very precise; one can enter the exact cents for transposition and the exact percentage for stretching and transpose the formants to control the timbre. The timbre can be remixed by emphasizing (or diminishing) the transient, the tonal component or the noise component. I was very happy when I managed to buy it some time ago. (Yes, the technology is not recent and comes ultimately from the old AudioSculpt – and this is probably because IRCAM is basically an educational and research center – towards which I feel affection, I confess – and not primarily a software house: their resources to produce software are limited.) Trax is also the best software I have for experimenting on elaborations on voice (and instrumental) samples; something very useful, in my case, and of great quality – and it does also sound morphing very well. About using it often or not: we are all different, so it probably depends on the kind of music one does: personally, I will certainly use TS and Trax much more than a cabinet simulator, a saturator/distortion, a preamp, a Rhodes electric piano simulator, an "automatic" analyzer of chord or scales, or a drum machine (all examples of softwares I never use)…

[lnikj]

TS2 out now: https://www.ircamlab.com/products/p1680-TS2/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPyTbHU0XAk

[ChamomileShark]

so would it be better than Melodyne or the various elastique programmes built into aome DAWs for simple transpose / stretch?

[Neon Breath]

No discount for actual V1 customers?

Fail. No thanks, no way I'll pay twice for that.

[lnikj]

No discount for actual V1 customers?

Fail. No thanks, no way I'll pay twice for that.

Free upgrade according to Don't Crack.

[Gamma-UT]

V2 is a free upgrade. It authorises with the same serial number.

[Neon Breath]

That's good news then.

My bad. And thanks for the info.

[zyzygis]

Just trying out the new version and it has many improvements and lots of added functionality.
The stretching is very good but the exported file was glitchy and warbling while it sounded great in the app.
Might be user error, I will have to test it again.
One thing I really miss and I asked for is a bars and beats grid option to snap edit points to, it seems like an obvious thing to have in an app like this but AFAICT there is no way to do it. Seriously limits the editing functionality IMO.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

The stretching is very good

It always was, albeit within a certain range. Have they now expanded the stretching into 'creative' territories, a la PaulStretch?

Cheers

[zyzygis]

I haven’t tried extreme stretching yet, my main interest at the moment is in subtle tempo changes in song sections.
I will try more extreme later and report back.

[lnikj]

The stretching is very good

It always was, albeit within a certain range. Have they now expanded the stretching into 'creative' territories, a la PaulStretch?

Cheers

No, they've reduced it. You could do 100* in v1 but only 10* in v2 as far as I can determine.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

I haven’t tried extreme stretching yet, my main interest at the moment is in subtle tempo changes in song sections.
I will try more extreme later and report back.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

The stretching is very good

It always was, albeit within a certain range. Have they now expanded the stretching into 'creative' territories, a la PaulStretch?

Cheers

No, they've reduced it. You could do 100* in v1 but only 10* in v2 as far as I can determine.

That's a shame

Thanks!

[simmo75]

No discount for actual V1 customers?

Fail. No thanks, no way I'll pay twice for that.

How do you discount free?