some hiphop... w/pics and first track done in CSX3 on the G5

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this was done in our new room (studio 3) which is intended as a versatile composing environment with a handy vocal booth and the G5 2.5 with CSX 3 is the heart of it (Studio 1 is on PT HD/TDM and Studio 2 has a G5 2.0 with Logic and PT LE)

besides all the commercial work that i do, my group is an underground hiphop crew and this will be our first single to be released in Middle Earth. it has been the most acclaimed track in our live performances and generally gets the crowd wild. hope some of you like it...

to you, my fellow North-Americans, the accents may sound weird... that's the flava in AKL.

http://www.roguetone.com/music/The-Vibe-Is-Right/

Peace!
.nukles
Last edited by nukles on Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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sounds like some pretty clean production to me. you blokes are playing at coast on the 13th yeah? not too shabby!

please though, no more middle earth :oops: ...

i'm not really feeling the the whole ladies and bevvies lyrics, but that's probably my problem in many ways ... :> smooth stuff though, for sure.

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha... didn't think i'd hit anyone local. yeah i'm sick of the whole LOTR shit as well but i got used to using M-E on message boards.

so you checkin us out at Coast in a few weeks? i'll be the short one behind the turntables.

that party will go off like mad until sun gets up. and for a fellow KVRist, may i offer to get you in if you decide to join us?
.nukles

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Ransom I think I heard has a very nice flow. No talking about guns or fighting, tight track.
I love the production.
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Great tune...nice to hear more hiphop round here. Just listening on the laptop but sounds like you have a good mix goin.....

dano
"In a sky full of people, only some want to fly,
Isn’t that crazy?"

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Cool stuff. Production's great, rhymes are great.

Personally, I'm not digging the accent, and the production is too clean - needs more dirt! :D

Forever,




Kim.

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nice to be complimented by a fellow Canadian... it can get a bit lonely donw here some times.


Jeez, i really tried to keep the dirt out of this one as much as i could to see who would end up liking it, even though it uses a pretty dehrrty vinyl sample from an obscure source. the rest of our material is pretty damn grimey, the way i like it. one track we even used live beat juggling (not massive, just club style) for the music, straight off a test-pressing and it's going on the album.
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nukles wrote:aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha... didn't think i'd hit anyone local. yeah i'm sick of the whole LOTR shit as well but i got used to using M-E on message boards.

so you checkin us out at Coast in a few weeks? i'll be the short one behind the turntables.

that party will go off like mad until sun gets up. and for a fellow KVRist, may i offer to get you in if you decide to join us?
i'd be more than keen to check you guys out at coast! that event is going to be a helluva showcase of nz hiphop... unfortunately i'm pretty sure i'm away that weekend - just my luck. have a well tasty time though, i'm sure you blokes will rock the place. such a good time sound you've got.

when's the single, and is there an album in the works?
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Really nice mix, although it sounds like you're popping a little bit on the mic with some of the p's. Maybe the pop screen was too close to the mic?

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you're spot-on with that. i noticed after but it will have to do for now. it actually already played on 3 radio stations today. :o
.nukles

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Actually - what bugged me most of all was the amount of time it took me to download the track.

Have you got a shite server or was there some sort of bottleneck or something?

Anyway - that aside...

I like the music behind this although perhaps it is slightly too distant compared to the vocals. In any case - even so I liked it.

Does Hip Hop have breakdowns? I wouldn't have minded some fancy beats somewhere - like between one of the choruses and a verse.

I liked the reversed sounds used somewhere in the middle there although I didn't like the woman's voice being reversed - it didn't really gel for me and kind of threw things out or something.

The vocals were done well and I definitely liked some of the rhyming. It worked well even though I the content itself left me a little cold. However - it's a reality of the genre yeah? So I went passed that and appreciated the rhyming which, as I said, was really quite good.

The problem I had with the vocals was the "s" sounds. They were killing me a little and I think you should aim at taming those as you go forward. I'd probably have a similar difficulty with them myself - but just something to keep an ear on I guess.

Overall I liked this one. I'm no hip-hop afficionado but I was grooving along with it a little as I was listening.

Tame the sibilance, maybe bring up the backing music ever so slightly and perhaps remove a little reverb from the music (?) and add a few interesting drum fills.

And construct a cool website yeah? You've got a front page that doesn't lead anywhere. Getting about time to give your outfit a proper home on the net hey? :wink:

Caleb
Happiness is the hidden behind the obvious.

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now THAT was constructive feedback 8) thanks dude.

This song has about 43 502 things I don't like about it but as a group and being one of the two musicians in it I have to compromise. The music itself was originally written by Anime, the third rapper on it and I joined the group about a year ago and this is one of three pieces that we are keeping from the original lineup. And it is very very hard to convince him to let me "fix it up". I have done a lot to it already but it's one of those that he is very protective of.

one example is the drums... originally it had very dry and frigid drums that tooooo quantised. it took me 3 months to convince him to let me change the sounds of the drums and another two months to gradually let me humanise it just a little bit. i'm a drummer and i like my drums funky and rich... he doesn't

The vocal sample in the reverse bit, i can't take it out since it's just in the loop we use for the chorus and is just in there. i will try to EQ it out a little more. i guess i know the song a bit too much now and it doesn't prevent me from hearing his words over it like it would to most people. i totally acknowledge that.

and the damn sssssssss sounds... don't get me started... LOL
EQ'ing proved futile as it destroyed too much elsewhere so i will have to go spend some time editing individual wave files in great detail as if i were doctoring a picture in photoshop. a daunting task but i've done it before so i have an idea of the work involved. i just hate using a computer to its full potential for making music, it removes the sense of accomplishment in making a song from sounds.

all in all, i'm happy with it... it already plays on the radio, people have already been asking for an album at a big local chain of music stores, every show is full and the crowd is loving it. if i can just do better than that one for the rest of the album i'll be happy,

i normally don't master the music i make, i get my studio partner (Henry HD) to do it since he's 1. better at it and 2. hates hiphop. but this one was recorded, mixed and "mastered" for urgent release to radios all in one night. and i spent about 36 hours with a blazing migraine after that.

when you've worked with organic music for a long time and know how to treat it, mixing and mastering vinyl-sampled based hiphop to sound good is not the same. still i've been making it since 1993 (not mixing and mastering it though) and i like it dehrrrty. just my own taste.

oh and i think that the download time was associated with the server farm being under a tremendous amount of stress due to a complete migration because the pipes on it are massive and i usually don't have too much hassle transferring to and from it. and i'm in freakin NZ, home of the slowest international internet connectivity (f**k Telecom NZ, release the load to Telstra you ass f**kers)
.nukles

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