Obsession
Synapse Audio OBSESSION is now available!
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- KVRAF
- 11182 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
They all sound the same anyway
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- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- KVRAF
- 35436 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Is that an invitation to prove it scientifically, or a invitation to cut the offtopic?
Don't worry, even if I could I wouldn't. Even though, one day, AnX has to explain me how I would do that. He was just making a point, and exaggerated quite a bit, fair enough.
- KVRAF
- 35295 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
If you buy the VST version of Synapse synths how do you go about getting the RE (or visa versa)?
- Banned
- 10732 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
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- KVRAF
- 35436 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
- Banned
- 10732 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
Richard_Synapse wrote: ↑Sat Jun 20, 2020 3:19 pm Synapse Obsession is now available!
Obsession brings the power of a great polyphonic vintage synthesizer to your fingertips. It combines the astute modeling of voltage-controlled oscillators (VCOs), voltage-controlled filter (VCF) and voltage-controlled amplifier (VCA) with a comprehensive individual voice control that has never been done before in this detail.
Link to the product page:
https://www.synapse-audio.com/obsession.html
Key features:
NKS Approved
- Two part engine with 8 or 16 voice boards
- Single/Dual/Split modes
- High-quality effect block with Delay, Reverb and Chorus
- Precise control of many sound parameters per voice board
- Stepped LFO with freehand drawing for rhythmic sequences
- Scalable GUI, Retina-ready
- Support for Multidimensional Polyphonic Expression (MPE)
- 420 patches by leading sound designers
Obsession is NKS-ready. Its factory library is automatically integrated into Maschine, Komplete Kontrol etc., with all presets properly tagged and a custom parameter map.
Formats & Pricing
Obsession is available in VST, Audio Unit and AAX formats (all 64-bit), for Windows and OS X. It can be purchased for only $99 on our shop page:
https://www.synapse-audio.com/shop.html
As always a free 30-day trial is available on the product page:
https://www.synapse-audio.com/obsession.html
- KVRian
- 1465 posts since 25 Sep, 2011
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- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
actually, I have been working very hard to keep someone put this thread out of it's misery comments from starting...I just got home from 8 hours working a difficult job at best to have to delete posts for an hour...we mods wont be the blame of this thread going off and exploding, nope, because that's what happens every time (and far more than once from you) and it's the people posting and not listening who are the problem...do people get the hint when I delete a whole lot of posts? No, a bunch of ingrates thinks its funny though...it isnt...stay on topic.chk071 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:28 pmIs that an invitation to prove it scientifically, or a invitation to cut the offtopic?
Don't worry, even if I could I wouldn't. Even though, one day, AnX has to explain me how I would do that. He was just making a point, and exaggerated quite a bit, fair enough.
You see we get attacked for not doing our jobs by the same people who keep derailing these threads...that's just not fair
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- KVRAF
- 3368 posts since 2 Oct, 2004
I disagree. There's a definite break with the newer products as its a new younger team doing the DSP code at Arturia, versus the older stuff which was mainly coded by the guy at Xils Lab. The Phase distortion synth for example was coded by Oli Larkin as an external contractor. I don't see how synths coded by different people can have the same sound.zerocrossing wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:00 amI think it happens. If you listen to the Arturia emulations, they all have a bit of a boxy sound to them that can be heard despite character differences in all of them. Even OB-Xa V has it.
Another thing that happens is preset style. You can hear Howard Scarr all over every single U-He synth, though his stuff is great and pretty wide ranging. Listen to Tone2 plugins though. I swear it’s as if they try to replicate the same set of presets over and over again. I don’t think I could pick any one of their synths out in a blind test, but when you dig into them you can start discerning differences, though it’s still clear they’re made by the same company.
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- KVRAF
- 14991 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
I’m not of the mind that your plugins have a “sound,” but I do think that on other emulations they made compromises to meet a certain CPU use. Urs has said he did that with the filter FM in Diva, and made other choices where he personally felt he liked the results more, but let loose in Repro. How one chooses to make those concessions can end up imparting a character on an instrument. No? Again, I’m taking about Arturia, for the most part. They’re the most glaring example that I can think of. Just load up some of those instruments and start messing with the filters. Even though there are differences, they have a kind of clipped sound to them. I’m not even sure why, because they don’t seem to be band limited when you look at them, but if you compare the Obsession filter to the OB-Xa filter at the same cutoff frequency, you can easily hear what I’m talking about.Richard_Synapse wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:16 amThere is not going to be any.
In the vintage-analog world, many synths used Curtis or SSM chips, which do have a certain sound. They have been used by dozens of manufacturers though:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CEM_and_S ... nthesizers
In software, you could argue that some components have a certain sound, and this colors the overall synthesizer to some degree. But this is not a convincing argument when it comes to emulations, since emulations are designed to sound like particular hardware.
An argument can be made that it is the sound designers who craft specific, recognizable trademark sounds. That argument is a lot more convincing (think D50 here as the classic example).
Richard
Zerocrossing Media
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- KVRAF
- 14991 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
I just got the CZ emulation, so I can’t speak to that one, but what I’m talking about is easy enough to hear. Obsession, to me, sounds like what an analog filter sounds like. I can’t speak to that specific one, but in general. OB-Xa V... there’s something else going on. Not necessarily worse, but not as natural sounding. You don’t even have to listen to it compared to Obsession. Just find that a/b comparison file that Arturia posted on their own site.v1o wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:00 pmI disagree. There's a definite break with the newer products as its a new younger team doing the DSP code at Arturia, versus the older stuff which was mainly coded by the guy at Xils Lab. The Phase distortion synth for example was coded by Oli Larkin as an external contractor. I don't see how synths coded by different people can have the same sound.zerocrossing wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:00 amI think it happens. If you listen to the Arturia emulations, they all have a bit of a boxy sound to them that can be heard despite character differences in all of them. Even OB-Xa V has it.
Another thing that happens is preset style. You can hear Howard Scarr all over every single U-He synth, though his stuff is great and pretty wide ranging. Listen to Tone2 plugins though. I swear it’s as if they try to replicate the same set of presets over and over again. I don’t think I could pick any one of their synths out in a blind test, but when you dig into them you can start discerning differences, though it’s still clear they’re made by the same company.
Zerocrossing Media
4th Law of Robotics: When turning evil, display a red indicator light. ~[ ●_● ]~
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