Studio One 5 MPE Support

[Gomjab]

It looks like Studio One finally has MPE support!
I’m looking forward to feedback on how well it’s implemented.

“NEW! Poly pressure and MPE support.
Studio One 5 now supports note controllers for more expressive playback of musical performances using virtual instruments and orchestral libraries. Note controllers affect individual notes, in multiple dimensions if needed. This includes support for MIDI Poly Pressure and MPE (MIDI Polyphonic Expression) with compatible MIDI hardware and virtual instruments.”

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[astey]

It looks like Studio One finally has MPE support!
I’m looking forward to feedback on how well it’s implemented.

“NEW! Poly pressure and MPE support.
Studio One 5 now supports note controllers for more expressive playback of musical performances using virtual instruments and orchestral libraries. Note controllers affect individual notes, in multiple dimensions if needed. This includes support for MIDI Poly Pressure and MPE (MIDI Polyphonic Expression) with compatible MIDI hardware and virtual instruments.”

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Hi,
How can one edit the expression data?
Is there an overlay similar to bitwig, tracktion or cubase to edit pitch?

[Gomjab]

I’ll let you know if I can ever login to my Presonus account. They must be getting swamped with the new release.

[BobDog]

Yeah the site is really sick!

[astey]

I’ll let you know if I can ever login to my Presonus account. They must be getting swamped with the new release.

Thank you!

[agirgen]

I got Studio One 5 downloaded and immediately tried to get MPE working with my Linnstrument. So first, not only do you have to select "Enable MPE" in the device setup dialog but you also have to select "Enable MPE" from the pull down menu at the top of the Instrument Editor Window. I have found that this option is not available to all of my MPE enabled virtual instruments. For example, the option is present for Cypher2 but is not present for Surge.

Everything in the Linnstrument seemed to work with the default MPE settings (log press ChPerNote).

Editing is done by selecting the note you want to edit in the editor window, then select the Note Controller tab below the editor window. This brings up a pull down where you can select the type of expression data you want to edit. The rest is just like editing automation, etc.

Here are some screen shots:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AhxxGocPWe_PgoIqCj3 ... Q?e=JyA69J
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AhxxGocPWe_PgoIp23F ... w?e=RcXpiR

[Roger_Linn]

Are the built-in virtual instruments also MPE-compatible? Looking at their site, the only such polyphonic VIs are Mai Tai and Presence XT. If not, then Studio One's MPE compatibility consists only of passing all 16 channels to the track, which is certainly helpful in that it permits 3rd-party MPE plug-in VIs to be used.

[astey]

I got Studio One 5 downloaded and immediately tried to get MPE working with my Linnstrument. So first, not only do you have to select "Enable MPE" in the device setup dialog but you also have to select "Enable MPE" from the pull down menu at the top of the Instrument Editor Window. I have found that this option is not available to all of my MPE enabled virtual instruments. For example, the option is present for Cypher2 but is not present for Surge.

Everything in the Linnstrument seemed to work with the default MPE settings (log press ChPerNote).

Editing is done by selecting the note you want to edit in the editor window, then select the Note Controller tab below the editor window. This brings up a pull down where you can select the type of expression data you want to edit. The rest is just like editing automation, etc.

Here are some screen shots:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AhxxGocPWe_PgoIqCj3 ... Q?e=JyA69J
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AhxxGocPWe_PgoIp23F ... w?e=RcXpiR

Welp, so they got the chance to design and implement Mpe from scratch. And the only thing they come up with: "let's add 3 automation lanes by drop down menus... at the bottom of the screen.

Does it display pitch data in semitones ?

[agirgen]

Does it display pitch data in semitones ?

It appears to only display a raw value from -100 to +100. I'm not sure though, still messing around with it. I could be missing something. The manual is very vague about how this all works.

[agirgen]

Are the built-in virtual instruments also MPE-compatible? Looking at their site, the only such polyphonic VIs are Mai Tai and Presence XT. If not, then Studio One's MPE compatibility consists only of passing all 16 channels to the track, which is certainly helpful in that it permits 3rd-party MPE plug-in VIs to be used.

The PreSonus built-in virtual instruments lack the option to turn on MPE from the pull down menu on the instrument Editor Window. I did find that all of the Native Instruments VIs I own have the option to turn it on but it was hit or miss as to weather they would work or not. If they didn't work, turning it on would render no sound when triggering notes with the Linnstrument. Others, such as the MassiveX synth allow you to apply movement/pressure across the x, y or z axes to any setting within the synth. I haven't had much time to experiment with many of them though.

[pdxindy]

Are the built-in virtual instruments also MPE-compatible? Looking at their site, the only such polyphonic VIs are Mai Tai and Presence XT. If not, then Studio One's MPE compatibility consists only of passing all 16 channels to the track, which is certainly helpful in that it permits 3rd-party MPE plug-in VIs to be used.

The PreSonus built-in virtual instruments lack the option to turn on MPE from the pull down menu on the instrument Editor Window. I did find that all of the Native Instruments VIs I own have the option to turn it on but it was hit or miss as to weather they would work or not. If they didn't work, turning it on would render no sound when triggering notes with the Linnstrument. Others, such as the MassiveX synth allow you to apply movement/pressure across the x, y or z axes to any setting within the synth. I haven't had much time to experiment with many of them though.

NI synths don't themselves support MPE...

[pdxindy]

Does it display pitch data in semitones ?

It appears to only display a raw value from -100 to +100. I'm not sure though, still messing around with it. I could be missing something. The manual is very vague about how this all works.

After I watched a few Presonus videos about the new v5 features and all they mentioned was that it supports MPE but no info at all about it, I figured it was pretty rudimentary support and not a significant priority for them.

[Roger_Linn]

Are the built-in virtual instruments also MPE-compatible? Looking at their site, the only such polyphonic VIs are Mai Tai and Presence XT. If not, then Studio One's MPE compatibility consists only of passing all 16 channels to the track, which is certainly helpful in that it permits 3rd-party MPE plug-in VIs to be used.

The PreSonus built-in virtual instruments lack the option to turn on MPE from the pull down menu on the instrument Editor Window. I did find that all of the Native Instruments VIs I own have the option to turn it on but it was hit or miss as to weather they would work or not. If they didn't work, turning it on would render no sound when triggering notes with the Linnstrument. Others, such as the MassiveX synth allow you to apply movement/pressure across the x, y or z axes to any setting within the synth. I haven't had much time to experiment with many of them though.

I'd guess that Studio One is sending a command to the VI that enables MPE mode and sets the Master and MPE channels. Unfortunately, almost no VIs support this command, so Studio One's implementation isn't very useful. Along with the fact that their site makes no mention of MPE, I think I'll wait before adding Studio One to my Recommended Sounds page until I get more position comments about it. Thanks!

[astey]

Here is a video @4:20 which shows mpe a little bit.

[agirgen]

Are the built-in virtual instruments also MPE-compatible? Looking at their site, the only such polyphonic VIs are Mai Tai and Presence XT. If not, then Studio One's MPE compatibility consists only of passing all 16 channels to the track, which is certainly helpful in that it permits 3rd-party MPE plug-in VIs to be used.

The PreSonus built-in virtual instruments lack the option to turn on MPE from the pull down menu on the instrument Editor Window. I did find that all of the Native Instruments VIs I own have the option to turn it on but it was hit or miss as to weather they would work or not. If they didn't work, turning it on would render no sound when triggering notes with the Linnstrument. Others, such as the MassiveX synth allow you to apply movement/pressure across the x, y or z axes to any setting within the synth. I haven't had much time to experiment with many of them though.

I'd guess that Studio One is sending a command to the VI that enables MPE mode and sets the Master and MPE channels. Unfortunately, almost no VIs support this command, so Studio One's implementation isn't very useful. Along with the fact that their site makes no mention of MPE, I think I'll wait before adding Studio One to my Recommended Sounds page until I get more position comments about it. Thanks!

I contacted Presonus support regarding the missing MPE support for some of my VST Instruments. They are aware of the issue and told me that the MPE support in Studio One Version 5 is not compatible with VST3 plugins. Hopefully this is something they will fix in the near future.