Studio One 5 Available Now (5.3 Out June 29th, 2021)

[blizzard]

I'm under the impression that the live style clip launcher has been pulled back at the last minute. Atom SQ seems to be more than capable to offer tight integration in that aspect. However, they did not reveal it at the time of S1 launch. Seems like the .0 release seems to be mainly going after Cubase/ProTools camp. While the clip launcher is going to appeal more Ableton/Bitwig/Logic user base hence there might be .1 release around the corner.

I never actually saw anything official that said "Ableton-style clip launcher." Just people posting on forums or blogs predicting it. Looks more like a kind of next-level Mainstage.

Actually my assumptions were correct. They had to scale it back due to stability concerns but they intend to expand Show Page to be somewhere between MainStage and Ableton Live clip launcher. Watch from around 15:30: https://www.instagram.com/p/CCY6XTqnsOU/

[apoclypse]

I'm under the impression that the live style clip launcher has been pulled back at the last minute. Atom SQ seems to be more than capable to offer tight integration in that aspect. However, they did not reveal it at the time of S1 launch. Seems like the .0 release seems to be mainly going after Cubase/ProTools camp. While the clip launcher is going to appeal more Ableton/Bitwig/Logic user base hence there might be .1 release around the corner.

I never actually saw anything official that said "Ableton-style clip launcher." Just people posting on forums or blogs predicting it. Looks more like a kind of next-level Mainstage.

Actually my assumptions were correct. They had to scale it back due to stability concerns but they intend to expand Show Page to be somewhere between MainStage and Ableton Live clip launcher. Watch from around 15:30: https://www.instagram.com/p/CCY6XTqnsOU/

The point Gregor made about MainStage being Mac only makes a lot sense to me. I can imagine a lot of Windows users who were interested in MainStage or needed a MainStage like alternative is nice market to tap into. So imo the Show page makes even more sense now. Right now there is no MainStage alternative on Windows as far as I'm aware.

[garywilliamson1]

is the new Control room/ listen room thing available in the Project page as well? cant find anything on it.

I would assume yes. In Cubase, the Control Room lives outside of the project. So wouldn't make sense for S1 not to have it apply to the Project page. If it doesn't, that'd be a pretty big oversight.

looking at the manual, it appears it is NOT possible on the project page. unless its not mentioned in the manual, dumb. if you use room correction software while mixing why wouldn't you use it mastering?

[oneway]

is the new Control room/ listen room thing available in the Project page as well? cant find anything on it.

I would assume yes. In Cubase, the Control Room lives outside of the project. So wouldn't make sense for S1 not to have it apply to the Project page. If it doesn't, that'd be a pretty big oversight.

looking at the manual, it appears it is NOT possible on the project page. unless its not mentioned in the manual, dumb. if you use room correction software while mixing why wouldn't you use it mastering?

Agreed but side note- probably not a big hurdle since all the mastering engineers I know in Studio one use the song page for a lot of other reasons anyway

[dirtydenver]

I'm under the impression that the live style clip launcher has been pulled back at the last minute. Atom SQ seems to be more than capable to offer tight integration in that aspect. However, they did not reveal it at the time of S1 launch. Seems like the .0 release seems to be mainly going after Cubase/ProTools camp. While the clip launcher is going to appeal more Ableton/Bitwig/Logic user base hence there might be .1 release around the corner.

I never actually saw anything official that said "Ableton-style clip launcher." Just people posting on forums or blogs predicting it. Looks more like a kind of next-level Mainstage.

Actually my assumptions were correct. They had to scale it back due to stability concerns but they intend to expand Show Page to be somewhere between MainStage and Ableton Live clip launcher. Watch from around 15:30: https://www.instagram.com/p/CCY6XTqnsOU/

The point Gregor made about MainStage being Mac only makes a lot sense to me. I can imagine a lot of Windows users who were interested in MainStage or needed a MainStage like alternative is nice market to tap into. So imo the Show page makes even more sense now. Right now there is no MainStage alternative on Windows as far as I'm aware.

Makes perfect sense. That being said - if they expand it to poke more into the Ableton space (clip / clip launching) I and many others would be happy campers.

[gentleclockdivider]

Imho they should have released the showpage as a separate product ,now Stu one is becoming bloat-ware

[chk071]

I must admit that I had the same thought, when I saw the feature list of v5. The Show page, the score editor... Studio One is really getting quite big. Wished they'd stick to their less is more paradigm, but, I get why they're doing it. Some people want half of Live or Bitwig in it as well, so, I guess they'll serve that crowd with the next versions as well. Unless the customers get a bit of sense, which I wouldn't count on.

[apoclypse]

Imho they should have released the showpage as a separate product ,now Stu one is becoming bloat-ware

You can literally ignore the Show button if it bothers you that much. As for "bloat" Studio One 4.6 is around 259MB, S1 v5 is about 300MB barely 50MB more than the previous version. It's far from bloated. If you mean feature wise, well then compare to Logic Pro, or Cubase which are just as "bloated" if not more.

Logic's install is 1.58GB. Now that's "bloated". I played with the clip launcher a bit but will never ever use it in Logic. it's bloat imo but I can ignore it and it doesn't bother me.

As for the show page, Presonus' whole thing is that they add features that would usually be separate into the package. They did that with the project page and now the Show page. It's what they've done from the beginning. It's literally one button that you never have to touch of you don't need it.

[adoomus]

Well this update broke more than I had hoped
*sigh*

Back to Studio One 4 until the features I used get fixed

[Echoes in the Attic]

Is there an upgrade path from earlier versions of S1 artist to S1 artist v5?

[chk071]

Yes. https://shop.presonus.com/Studio-One-5- ... l-versions

[Vladislav_Gronk]

So did they fix the item overlapping yet? Or at least give the user the option to not have items overlapping?

[fairlyclose]

Well this update broke more than I had hoped
*sigh*

Back to Studio One 4 until the features I used get fixed

Which features are now broken?

[mamakin88]

So did they fix the item overlapping yet? Or at least give the user the option to not have items overlapping?

They did, there is a youtube video for the new features made by Presonus. Check it out.

[THE INTRANCER]

No change, still the same dreadful fonts from what I've seen... and nothing in added to the preferences to do anything about it since V4.0. It's the worst thing about Studio One and it's not been properly addressed in 5 years. The V4.0 colour pallet is worse than what it was in V3.0, no change there either. Oh and apart from the incredible amount of bugs there has been in the past 2 years.

Those who have bought it, had better do some deep investigations into just how buggy this version is... before they get serious with it. V4 was horrendous.

Yikes, Scotty! I think it's time for you to dump Studio One and come back to Reason.

If Propellerheads, can deliver a high quality Hi-DPI GUI developed with a new API, nice clear fonts and a few of the key features of Studio One like folder-tracks and video player for instance... then.. I wouldn't say no. Reason 12 will be interesting to see if that transpires...

I do have to say that the Transport Bar in Reason 11 is nicer looking than the one in Studio One as are the general fonts I feel.

For now though... Studio One 4.6 is where it's at...and honestly with my external synths linked up, monitoring through Pipeline XT and recording direct to wave on the sequencer or vie midi sequence as well with effects, there isn't much of anything I can't do as I've always done.

The new Mixer Scenes which are supposed to be a highlight are more of way to slow down my own workflow, by pissing about and not setting stuff and forgetting it, mixing as I go approach.

Notation I've never needed, like ever in 25 years... ( Hated the way of being forced to learn it in High School by an awful teacher that threatened us with detention if we didn't pencil out notation by hand for homework). Requirement for some old sequencers though. Don't think going on stage and using a chord sheet to follow whilst playing synthesizers counts lol.

MPE, don't need that...

Articulations, don't need that either... my synthesizers have advanced arpeggiated / step sequencers.

That Clip Gain tool, don't need that, I'll reduce that god damn volume of the section by slicing each side and lowering the clipped area as usual if need be.

Don't need that new staging Show Page, it's not what I had hoped it would be. Plugin aesthetics, the original one's were fine as they were, and they still managed to do a poor job in updating them so there was complete unity between all the effects.

This Show Page thing looks like another underdeveloped venture by Presonus...and I wouldn't trust Presonus in any live setting for fear of crashing... Studio one just isn't cut out for that I don't think and as with the Project Page, I'd find little practicality at all in using it. I'd trust Reason more for that sort of thing honestly.

And that Sphere thing, I don't need either but if I was going to collaborate I'd simply use Dropbox.

No updates to Mojito let alone a reskin, no new instruments... Not really sure if I want to go through another two years of bugs and issues as I've listed all in the Studio One blog found in my sig. Plenty of hands on programmable creative control with my XW-P1 and XW-G1 keyboards in front of me... Still have a Windows 7 64 based system as well with Reason 7 and Studio One 4.5 on it.

Some of the key things I wanted with Studio One 5, was a new GUI with better clearer non artifacted fonts...(Able to choose your fonts/size / emboldened and to be able to colour them as needed, (ala Cubase style preferably)...

Video Clip viewing on the timeline to help in film production...

Surround Sound Support to aid in film production scoring...

Concepts I've designed like the dual sequencer Mojito and Node Based Realtime Effects Sequencer

Clip System for Sound Mangling Reversing ect.. (See S1 blog thread)...

Detachable, re-dockable browser...

A Visual Mixer Management system...

Enhancements to the existing Multi Instruments and Effects node system...

The list goes on but it's late... 3.30am.

And almost forgot, the removability of that god damn Shop Tab, that makes Studio One look like a god damn vending machine.