See, this is what happens when you begin to venture off into "Stuff not in the original" territory. Where does it end? I would be less frustrated right now if this was an exact OB-Xa without the extras that have been added. They only made me want more and that's what leads to me pulling my hair out of my head because the patches I want to make (all splits mind you) cannot physically be done.
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- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
For Dual mode patches the current implementation is very useful. You could do things with that not possible with the Single mode.
Besdes other options for example you can use it as 4 physical oscillators and and with some detuning in the voice trimmers it can emulate a 2-voice poly unison. Of course it ca be used for typical layers with 2 differnt sounds. I have done Dual patches that use all those options just mentioned.
Besdes other options for example you can use it as 4 physical oscillators and and with some detuning in the voice trimmers it can emulate a 2-voice poly unison. Of course it ca be used for typical layers with 2 differnt sounds. I have done Dual patches that use all those options just mentioned.
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- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Yeah, dual mode is fine and quite useful. But split mode, very difficult to do anything interesting with it because of all the shared parameters.Ingonator wrote: ↑Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:12 pm For Dual mode patches the current implementation is very useful. You could do things with that not possible with the Single mode.
Besdes other options for example you can use it as 4 physical oscillators and and with some detuning in the voice trimmers it can emulate a 2-voice poly unison. Of course it ca be used for typical layers with 2 differnt sounds. I have done Dual patches that use all those options just mentioned.
- Banned
- 10732 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
pretty much pointless today, when you can load 2 instances and have full control over each sound (dual is pretty much the same imo) without any compromises
- KVRAF
- 5140 posts since 22 Jul, 2006 from Tasmania, Australia
@wag tunes-
you could put the 2 complementary presets in a folder and put a .txt explaining to load them conjunctive?
you could put the 2 complementary presets in a folder and put a .txt explaining to load them conjunctive?
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
When creating a patch library for Obsession specifically for the purpose of selling to other people, relying on being able to load multiple instances of Obsession is meaningless as far as the actual patch I'm programming for the purpose of the customer loading that patch and playing it. The customer isn't interesting in me saying in my patch notes "Take patch X and patch Y and put them on 2 separate tracks and play them together." He doesn't want to hear that. He wants a patch that he can load up and function in that manner without having to jump through hoops.
Sheesh
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
As I just explained to AnX, nobody wants to be bothered to do that.
When I made my Falcon library, I made a bunch of multi patches that were actual multi patches because they loaded more than one patch together. That's what a customer wants. Not a workaround.
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Then maybe the archaic feature shouldn't have been included if it's so useless.
- Banned
- 10732 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
wrong, lots of ppl are quite happy to layer synths, and most are more likely to do it without a compromise of both control and polyo
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
For that matter then I can just include a text file that says "All patches can be combined via layering in your DAW to make even more interesting sounds."
Yeah, what a cop out. You think anybody will take that seriously?
- Banned
- 10732 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
my thoughts exactly, but it was a quick bolt on very late in beta, hence the miniscule amount of dual/split patches in the factory bank
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014