You get your redeem code, activate it on TDR site and now you have the plugin in your TDR accountKazi7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:47 am Sounds good. One question: after purchase, will Nova GE be registered to PluginFox user account or will it be registered over at the Tokyo Dawn site? I personally prefer the latter, since the Tokyo Dawn guys seem more reliable and trustworthy to me. Everything they do is on point, well thought out and proper.
oeksound soothe alternative without ilok?
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- KVRist
- 275 posts since 12 Jan, 2016
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- KVRAF
- 5818 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki
What about Voxengo Soniformer? Mature software, currently on sale.
https://www.voxengo.com/product/soniformer/
https://www.voxengo.com/product/soniformer/
- KVRian
- 597 posts since 10 Jan, 2017
Nova GE is fantastic and certainly worth having, but the de-resonate process isn't quite the same as what Soothe does. Nova is detecting the 6 highest resonant peaks in an offline analysis, then creating a static dynamic band for each. Soothe's "bands" are constantly floating and can track moving resonances in realtime.
In practice, what Soothe does might be overkill for the job and Nova does give you more precise control as long as the resonance is static. But yeah, different processes
In practice, what Soothe does might be overkill for the job and Nova does give you more precise control as long as the resonance is static. But yeah, different processes
I'd be more intrigued by this - as from what I understand, Trackspacer has 32 dynamic bands under the hood? I'm going to to try this later!wavesfactory wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:43 am
Trackspacer can do that.
Just set the sidechain to a copy of the main signal, so basically it "listens" to itself. Then, use the built-in low-cut filter so it just attenuates the "resonances" and not the fundamental frequencies.
www.wavesfactory.com/trackspacer
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Obsolete462444 Obsolete462444 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=462444
- Banned
- 465 posts since 15 Apr, 2020
@andymcbain
Yes, I know what you mean, even though "static-dynamic" is actually an oxymoron. What Nova GE does: it identifies the frequencies of potential resonances once and applies dynamic eqing to these fixed nodes in the frequency spectrum, whereas Soothe does constantly listen to the audio signal for resonances and adapt the eq parameters in realtime.
To me Nova GE is sufficent for that task, because say you have a signal with a unpleasant resonance and the signal is playing in different key pitches (which means that the position of the resonance in the frequency spectrum will also change): you just need to setup different nodes for the different pitches and the result will basically be the same to what Soothe does, just achieved in another way.
But I don't want to convince you (I'm not affiliated to Tokyo Dawn Labs in any way) and the Wavesfactory Trackspacer trick does also sound quite interesting to me. Trackspacer is a legendary plugin anyway - no doubt.
Yes, I know what you mean, even though "static-dynamic" is actually an oxymoron. What Nova GE does: it identifies the frequencies of potential resonances once and applies dynamic eqing to these fixed nodes in the frequency spectrum, whereas Soothe does constantly listen to the audio signal for resonances and adapt the eq parameters in realtime.
To me Nova GE is sufficent for that task, because say you have a signal with a unpleasant resonance and the signal is playing in different key pitches (which means that the position of the resonance in the frequency spectrum will also change): you just need to setup different nodes for the different pitches and the result will basically be the same to what Soothe does, just achieved in another way.
But I don't want to convince you (I'm not affiliated to Tokyo Dawn Labs in any way) and the Wavesfactory Trackspacer trick does also sound quite interesting to me. Trackspacer is a legendary plugin anyway - no doubt.
- KVRian
- 597 posts since 10 Jan, 2017
Ha! Yes, you're right - "fixed" is correct. No need for convincing here, I have both and use bothKazi7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:16 pm @andymcbain
Yes, I know what you mean, even though "static-dynamic" is actually an oxymoron. What Nova GE does: it identifies the frequencies of potential resonances once and applies dynamic eqing to these fixed nodes in the frequency spectrum, whereas Soothe does constantly listen to the audio signal for resonances and adapt the eq parameters in realtime.
To me Nova GE is sufficent for that task, because say you have a signal with a unpleasant resonance and the signal is playing in different key pitches (which means that the position of the resonance in the frequency spectrum will also change): you just need to setup different nodes for the different pitches and the result will basically be the same to what Soothe does, just achieved in another way.
But I don't want to convince you (I'm not affiliated to Tokyo Dawn Labs in any way) and the Wavesfactory Trackspacer trick does also sound quite interesting to me. Trackspacer is a legendary plugin anyway - no doubt.
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Hermetech Mastering Hermetech Mastering https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=7418
- KVRAF
- 1619 posts since 30 May, 2003 from Milan, Italy
- KVRian
- 1172 posts since 25 Jan, 2017
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- KVRAF
- 4710 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder
Pretty sure it targets transients, not resonant frequencies, like TDR De-edger? Definitely a very simple and clever processor though.
I'm wondering about EndeavorFX 'Unharsh' but that's iLok I think.
Also ToneBoosters Sibilance works in a similar kind of way to Soothe...
Re: Sknote SoundBrigade... hmmm not sure - not sure it's really "spectral" enough. How many filters does it have?
- KVRian
- 997 posts since 13 Oct, 2005 from digging a tunnel under your PC
It's been a few years, so I'm wondering what else has come out that's in a similar vein to everything that's already been mentioned.
I don't think Baby Audio Smooth Operator was mentioned. I bought it but can't use it because of the glare. I wrote and asked if they could update it with a way to dim the colours of the UI, but I doubt it'll happen.
There's also been Voxengo TEOTE. Bought it, but again, not a huge fan of the blocky UI.
Ozone 10 was just released a few days ago, with something called a "stabilizer module" but there's very little info on it, so I'm not sure if it's a similar thing to Soothe or not. I own Ozone 9, but the vst3 doesn't play well graphically with my DAW
Anything else new out there that I've missed ?
I don't think Baby Audio Smooth Operator was mentioned. I bought it but can't use it because of the glare. I wrote and asked if they could update it with a way to dim the colours of the UI, but I doubt it'll happen.
There's also been Voxengo TEOTE. Bought it, but again, not a huge fan of the blocky UI.
Ozone 10 was just released a few days ago, with something called a "stabilizer module" but there's very little info on it, so I'm not sure if it's a similar thing to Soothe or not. I own Ozone 9, but the vst3 doesn't play well graphically with my DAW
Anything else new out there that I've missed ?
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- KVRAF
- 4710 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder
Mastering the Mix have one called Reso which they describe as a 'Dynamic Resonance Suppressor', in other words, a Soothe competitor
I love Mastering the Mix (Bassroom / Reference especially) and I have all their stuff except for Reso. Once I got Soothe, I just never got tempted by anything else.
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- KVRAF
- 4710 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder
Mastering the Mix have one called Reso which they describe as a 'Dynamic Resonance Suppressor', in other words, a Soothe competitor
I love Mastering the Mix (Bassroom / Reference especially) and I have all their stuff except for Reso. Once I got Soothe, I just never got tempted by anything else.
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- KVRer
- 5 posts since 9 Sep, 2022
There is one from TDR Company, and also from Babyaudio smooth operator (cheeper one)