DDMF PluginDoctor - Alternatives linear / Harmonics Analysis

[fese]

Frankly, most antivirus software does more questionable things to your computer than anything else...
ddmf is a highly respected developer and is known for years, here and on GS. He even responded to you in this thread. That and the fact that he has his name and address on the website makes it highly unlikely that he is doing something fishy. No need to make baseless allegations against him.

Might be worth uploading your version of PD to virustotal. Theoretically it could be possible that it is somehow is compromised, either by a website hack or something else.

[dermage]

Quite obvious what happened here: on scanning plugins they will get instantiated once (like started) and each plugin may trigger some operations on their own. The same happens when a DAW scans plugins. So this is why disco dsp vertigo wrote some log files and some may write to the registry, like fab filter does for demo version for example.
Ddmf has a short impressum under contact, their gdpr statement is under privacy policy.

Grüße zurück aus Darmstadt
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[GRUMP]

Quite obvious what happened here: on scanning plugins they will get instantiated once (like started) and each plugin may trigger some operations on their own. The same happens when a DAW scans plugins.

Not here. Neither Cubase nor MPC, Wavelab or any other Tool I have used someday has ever evoked such Trouble.

So this is why disco dsp vertigo wrote some log files and some may write to the registry, like fab filter does for demo version for example.
Ddmf has a short impressum under contact, their gdpr statement is under privacy policy.

Grüße zurück aus Darmstadt
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You mean that Kaspersky reports the Application as responsible that has startet an other App? I must admit: I really ask myself why this should be so.

To make a long Story short: we can´t be sure and I trust Kaspersky Labs more than Businesspeople or Forum Posts

But anyway .. as it seems this Dev has some Work to do. I have installed hundreds of serious Applications over the last Years ans never experienced something comparable.

And may he be good and Heart and and a righteous Brother - such Issues are real Show Stoppers for a Business.

[GRUMP]

Frankly, most antivirus software does more questionable things to your computer than anything else...
ddmf is a highly respected developer and is known for years, here and on GS. He even responded to you in this thread. That and the fact that he has his name and address on the website makes it highly unlikely that he is doing something fishy. No need to make baseless allegations against him.

Might be worth uploading your version of PD to virustotal. Theoretically it could be possible that it is somehow is compromised, either by a website hack or something else.

And the Deutsche Bank was and is the Deutsche Bank. > 100.000 Employees worldwide. Highly Respected. Internationally. But all that did not proptect their Victims ...

[dermage]

Quite obvious what happened here: on scanning plugins they will get instantiated once (like started) and each plugin may trigger some operations on their own. The same happens when a DAW scans plugins.

Not here. Neither Cubase nor MPC, Wavelab or any other Tool I have used someday has ever evoked such Trouble.

So this is why disco dsp vertigo wrote some log files and some may write to the registry, like fab filter does for demo version for example.
Ddmf has a short impressum under contact, their gdpr statement is under privacy policy.

Grüße zurück aus Darmstadt
.

You mean that Kaspersky reports the Application as responsible that has startet an other App? I must admit: I really ask myself why this should be so.

To make a long Story short: we can´t be sure and I trust Kaspersky Labs more than Businesspeople or Forum Posts

But anyway .. as it seems this Dev has some Work to do. I have installed hundreds of serious Applications over the last Years ans never experienced something comparable.

And may he be good and Heart and and a righteous Brother - such Issues are real Show Stoppers for a Business.

Yes PluginDoctor starts the plugin. But in this case it's not an app, but a shared library which gets loaded. Externally this is seen as within the app PluginDoctor.

You may as well start a fresh plugin scan in your DAW and let Kaspersky run its real-time checker.
What could happen though is, that Kaspersky ignores Cubase scans. But that's only a suspicion by myself.

Anyway, Kaspersky is, let's say, no total security and well, they do ugly stuff, too. So I'd trust no one

Anyway, try to do your DAW scan and check for these occurrences.

I'm pretty sure the actual plugins doing the stuff is the reason you're seeing the reports by Kaspersky.

[Compyfox]

Okay, now I definitely know that GRUMP is just pulling stuff out of thin air.


As mentioned:
DDMF has both a Privacy Policy and an "Impressum" (Contact Information) through the Contact Page. DDMF has been around since 2006, and is indeed one of the most highly respected Indie developers out there.


Then regarding the "error messages":
I have Cubase and Wavelab as well as PluginDoctor. Each host works differently in terms of initializing plugins while scanning a folder. If Cubase is less resilient than PluginDoctor and Kaspersky is like "yeah... these routines are cool", then of course there is nothing that this Antivirus Leech is showing you.


No - instead you go the aggressive route and insist that the developer is doing "highly shady sh#t", that he doesn't have a legal imprint, that this tool is also not to your standards in terms of measuring equipment.

Tell you what...


GO OVER THERE:
https://www.pcjv.de/applications/measur ... lyser-2-0/

Pick up old Christian Budde VST Plugin Analyzer. See how far you can get. If you run into the "same issues" (which I am sure that you will), or if this tool is suddenly so, so much better (wouldn't surprise me).

But please do us all a favor... stop making up false claims, and then tell us to "trust you". Kaspersky is one of the worst offenders in terms of Antivirus software out there - period. If you still think "OMG this thing is calling home" - cut your LAN/WLAN immediately. Use your studio computer offline. There - problem solved (oh wait, that won't do).

[fese]

Quite obvious what happened here: on scanning plugins they will get instantiated once (like started) and each plugin may trigger some operations on their own. The same happens when a DAW scans plugins. So this is why disco dsp vertigo wrote some log files and some may write to the registry, like fab filter does for demo version for example.

Oh, right, didn’t think of that, makes sense. And maybe Kaspersky flags that as as suspicious because it loads DLLs from somewhere else on the disks, not from system32 or its own program dir.
And Cubase etc have most likely been added to the ignore list, because if you don’t, it runs like shit (speaking from experience here )
So the solution is: add plugin doctor to the whitelist...
Personally, I’d trust ddmf more than Kaspersky.
Nevertheless, I run every software I download through virustotal. And no “antivirus” software on my computer, just the Microsoft thingy, whatsitcalled... also had its problems, but at least it doesn’t install loads of bloat and takes over your OS.

[GRUMP]

Okay, now I definitely know that GRUMP is just pulling stuff out of thin air.


As mentioned:
DDMF has both a Privacy Policy and an "Impressum" (Contact Information) through the Contact Page. DDMF has been around since 2006, and is indeed one of the most highly respected Indie developers out there.


Then regarding the "error messages":
I have Cubase and Wavelab as well as PluginDoctor. Each host works differently in terms of initializing plugins while scanning a folder. If Cubase is less resilient than PluginDoctor and Kaspersky is like "yeah... these routines are cool", then of course there is nothing that this Antivirus Leech is showing you.


No - instead you go the aggressive route and insist that the developer is doing "highly shady sh#t", that he doesn't have a legal imprint, that this tool is also not to your standards in terms of measuring equipment.

Tell you what...


GO OVER THERE:
https://www.pcjv.de/applications/measur ... lyser-2-0/

Pick up old Christian Budde VST Plugin Analyzer. See how far you can get. If you run into the "same issues" (which I am sure that you will), or if this tool is suddenly so, so much better (wouldn't surprise me).

But please do us all a favor... stop making up false claims, and then tell us to "trust you". Kaspersky is one of the worst offenders in terms of Antivirus software out there - period. If you still think "OMG this thing is calling home" - cut your LAN/WLAN immediately. Use your studio computer offline. There - problem solved (oh wait, that won't do).

What am I pulling and wtf so you know about German Internet Law? Legally this site hast no Impressum. And what ist stated AS Impressum is a Threat for the Company itself.

The App hast no Terms and Conditions that you have to Accept, too ... what is iMO again a Threat for the Dev himself because legal Disputes would hand back to general Law (BGB er al).

And why should I stop expressing Misstrust because people like you Express Misstrust towards Kaspersky

They protect me Well since 10+ years...

[GRUMP]

Long Story Shirt: still waiting for an Explanation.

PD may just bei the Trigger for other Processes, maybe uses 3rd Party Tools itself and even have triggered a hidden Malware - checks are running.

But .. I'm no Noob with IT and have never experienced such Problems - so we can AT LEAST state Defects in the Coding and will hopefully Sion know more.

[dermage]

Long Story Shirt: still waiting for an Explanation.

PD may just bei the Trigger for other Processes, maybe uses 3rd Party Tools itself and even have triggered a hidden Malware - checks are running.

But .. I'm no Noob with IT and have never experienced such Problems - so we can AT LEAST state Defects in the Coding and will hopefully Sion know more.

Your statements here show, you do not have a understanding how VST technology / shared library loading works in detail. So I'd step a bit back from accusing and more in direction of researching in detail what actually happens.

Have you tried using an extra VST folder where only 2-3 plugins can be scanned, so you see if the problem persists with the Kaspersky scanner? That would be the first thing I'd do to circle the issue.
Take for example U-he synths which are well programmed and should not write to registry neither should make internet calls.

[Calenberger]

Kaspersky They protect me Well since 10+ years...

You think they protect you well for more than 10 years.
No one should trust his thoughts...

[Compyfox]

Why are we even wasting our time with you.

What am I pulling and wtf so you know about German Internet Law? Legally this site hast no Impressum. And what ist stated AS Impressum is a Threat for the Company itself.

a) I'm German, and I run/have run several pages - so I know a bit about German Internet Law / Telemedia Law

b) the more and more you write, the more it feels like you're starting to threat(!) the developer, since things do not go "as you expected/like".

And why should I stop expressing Misstrust because people like you Express Misstrust towards Kaspersky

Several reasons:

1) you keep on insisting that DDMF is doing "shady business" with "calling home and reading out data" without even backing up the claim (screenshots, error messages, mentioning what OS you use, which PluginDoctor version, etc). Also, you didn't even seem to have contacted the developer first, rather you wash your dirty laundry in public.

2) you do not believe longtime users in the "studio software realm" that there are anti-virus tools and "anti-malware" tools actively interfering with studio tools running correctly. Not to mention that these quote-unquote "security tools" aren't free of flaws (especially Kaspersky and AntiVir!). I'm doing tech support on the side, and Anti-Vir and "Firewalls" are always the number 1 reason for non working equipment.



Listen...

If you're such an expert with "measuring plugins / equipment", then stick to your guns as to what you're currently doing, and them move on. As in - just stop writing in here. You got your point across - you won't step away from it. I also gave you another alternative (although it's being fairly "discontinued" for quite a couple of years now). And I'm pretty sure I have some more in my KVRMarks.

What you do currently, and continue to do so, is badmouthing a developer without any further proof, while shrugging away and not allowing any other commentary. You do not want any help - you just want affirmation.



I am not investing any more time in this, and let both the other users and the mods in here have at it. I don't need to be part of yet another 10-page rant-fest that will ultimately lead to nowhere (one of the reasons I stopped getting involved in KVR threads).

But thanks for the reminder that I should re-send my feature requests for a future PluginDoctor update.


Have a nice remaining day.

[GRUMP]

Checks for Malware in on System finished. Deep Scan without any selective Parameters. No Threat found.

It's PD itself or integrated 3rd Party Stuff that evokes mentioned Problems.

[GRUMP]

Why are we even wasting our time with you.

b) the more and more you write, the more it feels like you're starting to threat(!) the developer, since things do not go "as you expected/like".

It's definitely not about Feelings here. My Reports are based in Evidence. The Result is Misstrust and this is more than justified.

And sry ... But If you know about Internet Law you should know that the Site hast none.

The more O read from Potential Friends Here the bigger the Temptation to waste more of my Time on what comes after Reports, Complaints and Checks....

[Compyfox]

It's definitely not about Feelings here. My Reports are based in Evidence.

Evidence we've yet to see - with detailed reports and screenshots.
You made this claim - prove us wrong.

Or - if you continue to refuse doing that - stop posting, remove PluginDoctor, ask for a refund (if you are still within the 30 days), and move on!

The Result is Misstrust and this is more than justified.

No it's not.