Another DAW with piano roll as great as FL Studio?

[xbitz]

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Can you explain your statement quoted below and cite some other DAWs' equivalent figures?

FL is running on 60fps

^ try to use the piano roll with 30/60fps

Ultrasmooth on/off (I've made a quick blind test and was able to feel the difference, with 30 it's closer to the S1 one IMO so a bit less responsive, but maybe just for me, ultrasmooth is ...ultrasmooth )

[VariKusBrainZ]

^
Can you explain your statement quoted below and cite some other DAWs' equivalent figures?

FL is running on 60fps

^ try to use the piano roll with 30/60fps

Ultrasmooth on/off (I've made a quick blind test and was able to feel the difference, with 30 it's closer to the S1 one IMO so a bit less responsive, but maybe just for me, ultrasmooth is ...ultrasmooth )

Interesting as I'd never noticed difference in responsiveness, I'll check this out, maybe I don't have the biological hardware to notice!

[tooneba]

I didn't know FPS meter can be shown there

[vurt]

Tell me how a studied violinist, who properly knows 10 times more about music theory than all of you together, shall record Midi into a DAW... or a professional brass player... or a drummer...???

What is your point, none of them should enter anything in a DAW, engineer should record what they know doing, playing an instrument of choice, if they decide to step their game and become producers, picking up keyboard with drum pads should be the way to go.

What do you mean???

Peeps here stated, instead of drawing something in it would always be better to record it in as drawing would be a sign for lacking music theory or being a bad muscian in general...

I wrote that this is nonsense as there are many other good muscians out there who have their skills on other instruments but not on piano/keyboard...
Even with being a good muscian it doesn´t serve them anything because it´s quite hard to record midi for a bassline, for drums or a synth into a DAW with a trumpet or a violin...
So these people don´t have any other chance than either learning keyboard properly or just drawing in the notes what would be the closest thing to do...

And I do not understand what shall be wrong with drawing in notes for people not having intense keyboard knowledge and training...

Does this answer your question (if it was any)??

But what that magic has FL Piano Roll?! What those functions that no one can produce!!!

If it is related to right click deleting a note, this is so stupid in my opinion and many others! For this he/she can't switch to another DAW?!! Man people are so spoiled now that is beyond imagination!

Now, if it is related to scales and chords, I suggested to learn some music theory because those scales and chords are based on it! What is so strange in that?! What is the harm in learning something he is using without knowing the basis?! That is chords and scales!

I suggested to learn playing and I'm sorry to suggest that! I forgot that nowadays it is a shame to learn to play an instrument. It is the mouse and only mouse era! I give you that! Next time when I chat with someone musician, I would ask first: "Are you a mouseman?"

mouseician.

[Trancit]

nevermind...

I am out... I don´t even understand what you are writing here...

[pdxindy]

Tell me how a studied violinist, who properly knows 10 times more about music theory than all of you together, shall record Midi into a DAW... or a professional brass player... or a drummer...???

What is your point, none of them should enter anything in a DAW, engineer should record what they know doing, playing an instrument of choice, if they decide to step their game and become producers, picking up keyboard with drum pads should be the way to go.

What do you mean???

Peeps here stated, instead of drawing something in it would always be better to record it in as drawing would be a sign for lacking music theory or being a bad muscian in general...

I wrote that this is nonsense as there are many other good muscians out there who have their skills on other instruments but not on piano/keyboard...
Even with being a good muscian it doesn´t serve them anything because it´s quite hard to record midi for a bassline, for drums or a synth into a DAW with a trumpet or a violin...
So these people don´t have any other chance than either learning keyboard properly or just drawing in the notes what would be the closest thing to do...

And I do not understand what shall be wrong with drawing in notes for people not having intense keyboard knowledge and training...

Does this answer your question (if it was any)??

Any reasonably skilled trumpet or violin player could translate that into playing a bassline on a midi keyboard. It's significantly easier to learn to play keyboard than to create a nuanced performance via drawing notes in a piano roll.

[Passing Bye]

Any reasonably skilled trumpet or violin player could translate that into playing a bassline on a midi keyboard. It's significantly easier to learn to play keyboard than to create a nuanced performance via drawing notes in a piano roll.

Exactly, it's no shame in penciling stuff in, but that statement really doesn't reflect reality or can be used as an argument or justification, in real world those guys are amazing producers who know how to fairly well play keyboard too, have great grasp of music theory and have really great sense of rhythm and groove, hitting a mouse trying to enter stuff on timeline could be even harder thing to do, making that nuanced, as pdxindy said, is even more of an labor, it doesn't fly really.

Being great instrument player doesn't mean you are immediately great composer too or vice versa, know great players who can't make great music, but also some that barely can play, but what they play and come up with is pure gold, if you can pencil all that in, I admire you, it's amazing skill, but let's be real about it.

[stillshaded]

Try my reaper config.. I have tweaked it over the last few years to be somewhat like fl studio but with a bunch of other tweaks as well.. I think it's pretty dang good..

https://drive.google.com/file/d/14mtG1h ... sp=sharing

Here's a copy/paste from a reddit post I described some of the things I did.. there are a lot more. Try it out, but don't forget to backup your config first:

From Ableton, I set up key commands for doubling or halving the grid size by the shortcut ctrl+1 and ctrl +2, ctrl +3 to change to triplets.

From FL studio, I have a few things. I have right click set to immediately delete notes instead of bring up the menu. I have alt+ left drag as midi scrub. This is super handy for auditioning edits quickly, especially chord voicings.

I also have a script that makes it to where adding or moving notes when the song is playing doesn't actually play the notes and screw up playback. A lot of times I want to place a drum hit or something in a part of the song that's approaching, but I don't want to hear it til playback reaches it.

Also i have "s" assigned to this tool that is like the "slice tool" from FL studio.. just a line that will split notes anywhere you drag it. Good for cutting up chords.

From Studio One, I have a custom action assigned to ctrl+space that will move the play cursor to wherever the mouse pointer is. Again, this is incredibly handy for quickly auditioning edits.

[stillshaded]

btw.. the midi script that toggles midi preview when playback starts and stops is the headphone icon in the midi editor.

also, "s" key brings up the slice tool and pressing "s" again makes the slice

[andypryce]

I can play keyboard well and also good at finger drumming as I am also a drummer bur I am all for drawing and editing in the PR sometimes. As it yields to different results that can spice up the the production as you take out the performance degree and muscle memory out of the equation. You can draw in something that you wouldn't think of playing and would come out pretty good.

[vurt]

nevermind...

I am out... I don´t even understand what you are writing here...

me?
i was just giving "person who uses mouss to make music" a name.
things gotta have names, thats how we know what things are

i made no value judgement in mouseicians, the results are what matters in such endeavours i guess

(not averse to mousing myself either, using keys/pads input too. why limit oneself if one doesnt need to?)

[JerGoertz]

I prefer to call myself a knob-fondler

[vurt]

I prefer to call myself a knob-fondler

oh, i do like to fondle knobs as well.
like i said, why limit yourself?

[vurt]

actually, you raise a very good point.

some genres, across the various dance music genres particularly, dont rely so heavily on nuanced performances in the notes, a more robotic, simple thing.
but the performance is around the timbre, lots of live knob tweaking (not just cut off reso).

different folk require different tools to get the job done.
its bad enough being a musician and getting shit off none musicians for it, without other musicians piling on because you do it different.

its eaiser to tear a wall down than to build one.

[SneakyBeats]

I think Reaper can be modified close.