Cool, is there an ETA for that ?zvenx wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:01 pmAlready destined for 1.8.5THE INTRANCER wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:45 pm It would be good to see a preset tagging system, so you set favourites like in which you can with U-HE's Hive 2 browser. But surely it couldn't be too difficult to even create a basic star marking system for patches so you can keep track of patches you like besides being faster to identify.
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- KVRAF
- 3495 posts since 30 Dec, 2014
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- KVRAF
- 9585 posts since 5 Aug, 2009
parawave, when i opy a OS or layer why isnt the modulation also copied? :/ this is a bit bad ;(
and why ant i modulate the macros with the MASTER Volume faders?
anotherquestion i want to modulate a macro to exactly turn - semitones to + 12 semitones but how do i know how muh i have to modulate? there are no values in the red modulated line
and why ant i modulate the macros with the MASTER Volume faders?
anotherquestion i want to modulate a macro to exactly turn - semitones to + 12 semitones but how do i know how muh i have to modulate? there are no values in the red modulated line
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- KVRAF
- 11364 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
You are very wrong. Take a closer look at Pigments 'Combinate' modulation modifier slot. Then select "ReMap" as the type.teilo wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:20 pmThe only ones to my knowledge that do this in the VST world are Melda's plugins and Falcon. I'm sure there are others, but it's rare.Dirtgrain wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:02 amWhat other VSTs do this? I want to try it out--but not sure any I own have this capability.bmanic wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:49 pm It's one of the fundamental building blocks of something like Camel Audio Alchemy and one of the main reasons it is so powerful. You can custom shape any modulation source's input to any output target range.
@bmanic insists that Pigments does it. It doesn't. Pigments lets one mod source modify another modulation assignment's output, as do many other synths. The only way to get close to this in Rapid is to modulate the same target with two separate modulators, but that's not quite the same thing.
But to map a specific contour onto a modulator's output, Melda's the only one I've seen this with.
VPS Avenger also does this.. actually all the ones I mentioned can do this and most likely quite a few more.
EDIT: U-He Ace and Bazille can do this too.. and Zebra.. also Hive 2 I think. Additionally of course all the various modular synths out there. Thus you can sort of do it in FabFilter Twin too.. by modulating the keyboard map with another keyboard map and playing with the modulation intensity. Gets a bit gimmicky but can be done at a basic level.
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- KVRAF
- 11364 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
Another very useful example for custom shaped keyboard mapping (which you see me use virtually on every preset I ever created for Alchemy and Alchemy 2):
Keyboard mapping as a "compressor". Got a sound where the bass is a bit weak but when played as a lead sound it gets horribly loud and shrill at the top range of the keyboard? Or a pad that sounds really nice at certain parts of the keyboard but not at all good at the edges? Simply map the keyboard range to the main volume output of the plugin, then shape in such a way that the weak notes get louder and the too loud notes get lower in volume. Simple. Effective and no need for additional processing.
Keyboard mapping as a "compressor". Got a sound where the bass is a bit weak but when played as a lead sound it gets horribly loud and shrill at the top range of the keyboard? Or a pad that sounds really nice at certain parts of the keyboard but not at all good at the edges? Simply map the keyboard range to the main volume output of the plugin, then shape in such a way that the weak notes get louder and the too loud notes get lower in volume. Simple. Effective and no need for additional processing.
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- KVRAF
- 2034 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
Yep, I was wrong. Thanks for pointing that out. Also, great example of using the keymap.bmanic wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:27 pm Take a closer look at Pigments 'Combinate' modulation modifier slot. Then select "ReMap" as the type.
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- KVRAF
- 3386 posts since 25 Apr, 2011
well:bmanic wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:20 pmTry to do this: Modulate Cutoff frequency with an envelope. Now modulate that envelopes depth with velocity.. and now modulate that velocity with key tracking.exmatproton wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:18 pmWhich is possible (in a sense). Just 'keytrack-mod' the depth of the modulators.cb8rwh wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:52 pm I think bmanic wanted keytracking as a modulator of modulators.
Yeah. No can do.
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- KVRist
- 242 posts since 8 Oct, 2016 from Hagen | Germany
that's why i love our customersexmatproton wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:50 amwell:bmanic wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:20 pmTry to do this: Modulate Cutoff frequency with an envelope. Now modulate that envelopes depth with velocity.. and now modulate that velocity with key tracking.exmatproton wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:18 pmWhich is possible (in a sense). Just 'keytrack-mod' the depth of the modulators.cb8rwh wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:52 pm I think bmanic wanted keytracking as a modulator of modulators.
Yeah. No can do.
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- KVRist
- 143 posts since 28 Oct, 2002
Does anybody know how to purchase Rapid with credit card without having to create a paypal account? According to their checkout page this should be possible ("You want to pay with your credit cart? PayPal offers credit card payments with and without registering a PayPal account."), but everytime I try to complete the purchase, the paypal page forces me to create an account, which i won't do.
- KVRAF
- 3386 posts since 25 Apr, 2011
You could do this;Caine123 wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:17 pm anotherquestion i want to modulate a macro to exactly turn - semitones to + 12 semitones but how do i know how muh i have to modulate? there are no values in the red modulated line
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- KVRAF
- 11364 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
Good point. Now try turning that around with keytracking first.exmatproton wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:50 amwell:bmanic wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:20 pmTry to do this: Modulate Cutoff frequency with an envelope. Now modulate that envelopes depth with velocity.. and now modulate that velocity with key tracking.exmatproton wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:18 pmWhich is possible (in a sense). Just 'keytrack-mod' the depth of the modulators.cb8rwh wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:52 pm I think bmanic wanted keytracking as a modulator of modulators.
Yeah. No can do.
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Velocity is one of those you actually can do.. Having both level and velocity within the envelope block itself is a very good idea and something I was hoping Vengeance would implement for every modulation source even if it plays "double duty" with the matrix. It simply makes scaling things globally a lot easier.
Having said that, I'm sure you got it by now that this was just a single example. My point was that these kinds of double modulations (where one modulation is affected by another) is quite common and is possible within quite a few competing products. Thus Rapid doesn't really interest me all that much until it too has these possibilities.
Would be nice if Rapid implemented the matrix 'amount' field as a modulation target. That would make it immensely more powerful. Then simply introduce a modulation mapper function so that the user can exactly scale any modulation to their liking and suddenly Rapid would be a lot more capable.
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- KVRist
- 188 posts since 11 Sep, 2017
Gotta say, I still find it very interesting.
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- KVRist
- 188 posts since 11 Sep, 2017
I got the same page, odd.Fette Töle wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:52 am Does anybody know how to purchase Rapid with credit card without having to create a paypal account? According to their checkout page this should be possible ("You want to pay with your credit cart? PayPal offers credit card payments with and without registering a PayPal account."), but everytime I try to complete the purchase, the paypal page forces me to create an account, which i won't do.
- KVRAF
- 3386 posts since 25 Apr, 2011
Sure. I agree. That would be nice. And i am sure they will add that. But you're saying that a lot of "basic stuff" isn't possible, and i think/feel/believe that isn't true.bmanic wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:23 amGood point. Now try turning that around with keytracking first.exmatproton wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:50 amwell:bmanic wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:20 pmTry to do this: Modulate Cutoff frequency with an envelope. Now modulate that envelopes depth with velocity.. and now modulate that velocity with key tracking.exmatproton wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:18 pmWhich is possible (in a sense). Just 'keytrack-mod' the depth of the modulators.cb8rwh wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:52 pm I think bmanic wanted keytracking as a modulator of modulators.
Yeah. No can do.
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Velocity is one of those you actually can do.. Having both level and velocity within the envelope block itself is a very good idea and something I was hoping Vengeance would implement for every modulation source even if it plays "double duty" with the matrix. It simply makes scaling things globally a lot easier.
Having said that, I'm sure you got it by now that this was just a single example. My point was that these kinds of double modulations (where one modulation is affected by another) is quite common and is possible within quite a few competing products. Thus Rapid doesn't really interest me all that much until it too has these possibilities.
Would be nice if Rapid implemented the matrix 'amount' field as a modulation target. That would make it immensely more powerful. Then simply introduce a modulation mapper function so that the user can exactly scale any modulation to their liking and suddenly Rapid would be right at the top of synthesis capabilities.![]()
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- KVRian
- 1315 posts since 23 May, 2016
As far as I understand it's planned for 1.9bmanic wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:23 am Would be nice if Rapid implemented the matrix 'amount' field as a modulation target. That would make it immensely more powerful. Then simply introduce a modulation mapper function so that the user can exactly scale any modulation to their liking and suddenly Rapid would be a lot more capable.![]()
So I'm guessing 1.8.5 lands before christmas, 1.9 will be in about a year.
1.9.0
Freeform MSEG sequences.
Custom mapping curves for routing entries.
Modulator Helper/Edit functions.
Loop Player.
Granular FX Slot.
