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zvenx wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:01 pm
THE INTRANCER wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:45 pm It would be good to see a preset tagging system, so you set favourites like in which you can with U-HE's Hive 2 browser. But surely it couldn't be too difficult to even create a basic star marking system for patches so you can keep track of patches you like besides being faster to identify.

Hive 2
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Already destined for 1.8.5

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Cool, is there an ETA for that ?
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parawave, when i opy a OS or layer why isnt the modulation also copied? :/ this is a bit bad ;(

and why ant i modulate the macros with the MASTER Volume faders?

anotherquestion i want to modulate a macro to exactly turn - semitones to + 12 semitones but how do i know how muh i have to modulate? there are no values in the red modulated line
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teilo wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:20 pm
Dirtgrain wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:02 am
bmanic wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:49 pm It's one of the fundamental building blocks of something like Camel Audio Alchemy and one of the main reasons it is so powerful. You can custom shape any modulation source's input to any output target range.
What other VSTs do this? I want to try it out--but not sure any I own have this capability.
The only ones to my knowledge that do this in the VST world are Melda's plugins and Falcon. I'm sure there are others, but it's rare.

@bmanic insists that Pigments does it. It doesn't. Pigments lets one mod source modify another modulation assignment's output, as do many other synths. The only way to get close to this in Rapid is to modulate the same target with two separate modulators, but that's not quite the same thing.

But to map a specific contour onto a modulator's output, Melda's the only one I've seen this with.
You are very wrong. Take a closer look at Pigments 'Combinate' modulation modifier slot. Then select "ReMap" as the type.

VPS Avenger also does this.. actually all the ones I mentioned can do this and most likely quite a few more.

EDIT: U-He Ace and Bazille can do this too.. and Zebra.. also Hive 2 I think. Additionally of course all the various modular synths out there. Thus you can sort of do it in FabFilter Twin too.. by modulating the keyboard map with another keyboard map and playing with the modulation intensity. Gets a bit gimmicky but can be done at a basic level.
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Another very useful example for custom shaped keyboard mapping (which you see me use virtually on every preset I ever created for Alchemy and Alchemy 2):

Keyboard mapping as a "compressor". Got a sound where the bass is a bit weak but when played as a lead sound it gets horribly loud and shrill at the top range of the keyboard? Or a pad that sounds really nice at certain parts of the keyboard but not at all good at the edges? Simply map the keyboard range to the main volume output of the plugin, then shape in such a way that the weak notes get louder and the too loud notes get lower in volume. Simple. Effective and no need for additional processing.
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bmanic wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:27 pm Take a closer look at Pigments 'Combinate' modulation modifier slot. Then select "ReMap" as the type.
Yep, I was wrong. Thanks for pointing that out. Also, great example of using the keymap.

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bmanic wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:20 pm
exmatproton wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:18 pm
cb8rwh wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:52 pm I think bmanic wanted keytracking as a modulator of modulators.
Which is possible (in a sense). Just 'keytrack-mod' the depth of the modulators.
Try to do this: Modulate Cutoff frequency with an envelope. Now modulate that envelopes depth with velocity.. and now modulate that velocity with key tracking.

Yeah. No can do.
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exmatproton wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:50 am
bmanic wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:20 pm
exmatproton wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:18 pm
cb8rwh wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:52 pm I think bmanic wanted keytracking as a modulator of modulators.
Which is possible (in a sense). Just 'keytrack-mod' the depth of the modulators.
Try to do this: Modulate Cutoff frequency with an envelope. Now modulate that envelopes depth with velocity.. and now modulate that velocity with key tracking.

Yeah. No can do.
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Does anybody know how to purchase Rapid with credit card without having to create a paypal account? According to their checkout page this should be possible ("You want to pay with your credit cart? PayPal offers credit card payments with and without registering a PayPal account."), but everytime I try to complete the purchase, the paypal page forces me to create an account, which i won't do.

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Caine123 wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:17 pm anotherquestion i want to modulate a macro to exactly turn - semitones to + 12 semitones but how do i know how muh i have to modulate? there are no values in the red modulated line
You could do this;
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exmatproton wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:50 am
bmanic wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:20 pm
exmatproton wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:18 pm
cb8rwh wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:52 pm I think bmanic wanted keytracking as a modulator of modulators.
Which is possible (in a sense). Just 'keytrack-mod' the depth of the modulators.
Try to do this: Modulate Cutoff frequency with an envelope. Now modulate that envelopes depth with velocity.. and now modulate that velocity with key tracking.

Yeah. No can do.
well:

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Good point. Now try turning that around with keytracking first. :-)

Velocity is one of those you actually can do.. Having both level and velocity within the envelope block itself is a very good idea and something I was hoping Vengeance would implement for every modulation source even if it plays "double duty" with the matrix. It simply makes scaling things globally a lot easier.

Having said that, I'm sure you got it by now that this was just a single example. My point was that these kinds of double modulations (where one modulation is affected by another) is quite common and is possible within quite a few competing products. Thus Rapid doesn't really interest me all that much until it too has these possibilities.

Would be nice if Rapid implemented the matrix 'amount' field as a modulation target. That would make it immensely more powerful. Then simply introduce a modulation mapper function so that the user can exactly scale any modulation to their liking and suddenly Rapid would be a lot more capable. :)
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Gotta say, I still find it very interesting.

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Fette Töle wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:52 am Does anybody know how to purchase Rapid with credit card without having to create a paypal account? According to their checkout page this should be possible ("You want to pay with your credit cart? PayPal offers credit card payments with and without registering a PayPal account."), but everytime I try to complete the purchase, the paypal page forces me to create an account, which i won't do.
I got the same page, odd.

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bmanic wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:23 am
exmatproton wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:50 am
bmanic wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:20 pm
exmatproton wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:18 pm
cb8rwh wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:52 pm I think bmanic wanted keytracking as a modulator of modulators.
Which is possible (in a sense). Just 'keytrack-mod' the depth of the modulators.
Try to do this: Modulate Cutoff frequency with an envelope. Now modulate that envelopes depth with velocity.. and now modulate that velocity with key tracking.

Yeah. No can do.
well:

likethis.JPG
Good point. Now try turning that around with keytracking first. :-)

Velocity is one of those you actually can do.. Having both level and velocity within the envelope block itself is a very good idea and something I was hoping Vengeance would implement for every modulation source even if it plays "double duty" with the matrix. It simply makes scaling things globally a lot easier.

Having said that, I'm sure you got it by now that this was just a single example. My point was that these kinds of double modulations (where one modulation is affected by another) is quite common and is possible within quite a few competing products. Thus Rapid doesn't really interest me all that much until it too has these possibilities.

Would be nice if Rapid implemented the matrix 'amount' field as a modulation target. That would make it immensely more powerful. Then simply introduce a modulation mapper function so that the user can exactly scale any modulation to their liking and suddenly Rapid would be right at the top of synthesis capabilities. :)
Sure. I agree. That would be nice. And i am sure they will add that. But you're saying that a lot of "basic stuff" isn't possible, and i think/feel/believe that isn't true.

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bmanic wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:23 am Would be nice if Rapid implemented the matrix 'amount' field as a modulation target. That would make it immensely more powerful. Then simply introduce a modulation mapper function so that the user can exactly scale any modulation to their liking and suddenly Rapid would be a lot more capable. :)
As far as I understand it's planned for 1.9
So I'm guessing 1.8.5 lands before christmas, 1.9 will be in about a year.
1.9.0
Freeform MSEG sequences.
Custom mapping curves for routing entries.
Modulator Helper/Edit functions.
Loop Player.
Granular FX Slot.

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