Voice changer hardware or VST

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Zipede
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Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:48 am

Looking for some advice,

I need a voice changer that can change a spoken male voice into a female voice with a slightly robotic feel, I need a clean sound so it's easy to understand the words spoken, I don't need loads of effects. I have been considering the Roland VT-4 as that is the sort of price range I can reach. Are there better options around, Hardware or vst? Preferably not stand alone software.

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whyterabbyt
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Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:52 am

For plugins, Antares Throat and/or Mutator
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Zipede
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Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:01 am

Youtubing Antares Throat now, it looks nice, thanks.

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whyterabbyt
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Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:10 am

There are various other plugins that will give you pitchshifting etc to make the voice higher, or robotic effects (any vocoder for that) but Throat is still one of the best for that kind of male->female tonal/formant change.

Ircam TRAX is another, but its more expensive.
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Zipede
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Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:21 am

The IRCAM sounds amazing, but yeah it's pretty expensive! They don't appear to offer a trial version :(

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kidslow
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Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:33 am

You don't say whether vocoder is an option. If it is, on the hardware side Electro-Harmonix Iron Lung Vocoder has a "Gender Bender" knob. Of course if vocoders are an option, you have good free VSTs from TAL and Full Bucket, though maybe not with all the bells, whistles and gender bending.

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Zipede
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Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:44 am

kidslow wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:33 am
You don't say whether vocoder is an option. If it is, on the hardware side Electro-Harmonix Iron Lung Vocoder has a "Gender Bender" knob. Of course if vocoders are an option, you have good free VSTs from TAL and Full Bucket, though maybe not with all the bells, whistles and gender bending.
Vocoder is an option, and I have tried the ones you mention, they are all good, but when you want to pitch up, it starts sounding like a little squeaky pixie or gnome talking. I'm really trying for a natural sounding female formant change.

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kidslow
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Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:12 pm

Seems like Antares Throat might be your best choice. I have no experience with it. On the hardware front, depending on your time horizon, you might also look out for the Boss VT-1, which seem to come up cheaper (when they come up) than Roland VT-4 ... and now I'm curious if there was ever a VT-2 and why Roland decided to rebadge those from Boss? I see Roland had released a VT-3.

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arkmabat
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Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:34 pm

This guy sounds convincingly like a female-- it's just a really nice pitch shift afaik? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lATdwvE4lLU

V0RT3X
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Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:38 pm

Madrona Labs Virta has some neat tricks
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kidslow
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Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:54 pm

arkmabat wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:34 pm
This guy sounds convincingly like a female-- it's just a really nice pitch shift afaik?
Sounds more processed to me than a pitch shift. I wouldn't claim to be an expert, but just those vocal curves sound very digitized to my ears, more than a really nice pitch shift would do. Listen to the word "feel" for example.

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pekbro
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Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:06 pm

melodyne

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kidslow
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Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:45 pm

For some reason I don't mind full-on digitized over the top, ala vocoder, but just slightly off from what I expect of a human voice hits me like nails on a chalkboard, worst with Antares Auto-Tune. I know it can't be just me. I'll take a beautiful human voice over pitch correction every time.

Have been wondering if an analog-type tube saturator like Voxengo Warmifier or tape like u-he Satin would reduced that digitized uncanny valley that I hear. I have Melodyne 5 essential so will have to play around and find out.

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Zipede
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Post Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:43 am

kidslow wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:12 pm
Seems like Antares Throat might be your best choice. I have no experience with it. On the hardware front, depending on your time horizon, you might also look out for the Boss VT-1, which seem to come up cheaper (when they come up) than Roland VT-4 ... and now I'm curious if there was ever a VT-2 and why Roland decided to rebadge those from Boss? I see Roland had released a VT-3.
Yes, in my price range Antares Throat sounds like it may be the best option, I was disappointed to see it has ilok though. I looked at VT-1, it sounds good also, some convincing female voices.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynkrr0C-kcQ

There is a scambaiter on youtube called Kitboga, apparantly he uses a Roland VT-4, the female voices he gets is quite convincing also, but I am not sure if the VT-4 is his only tool.
kidslow wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:45 pm
For some reason I don't mind full-on digitized over the top, ala vocoder, but just slightly off from what I expect of a human voice hits me like nails on a chalkboard, worst with Antares Auto-Tune. I know it can't be just me. I'll take a beautiful human voice over pitch correction every time.
I agree, for a sining voice. What I am trying to achive is a slightly robotic female voice for some narration, no singing. Something like the computer's voice in the original Star Trek series. I've tried asking my wife and sister to do the voice for me, but they don't put the right expression into the words, I need a lot of material, so a voice actor would be too expensive.
V0RT3X wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:38 pm
Madrona Labs Virta has some neat tricks
Thanks, I'll check it out.
pekbro wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:06 pm
melodyne
I thought about Melodyne too, but it seems to be more on pitch correction, than a vocoder effects.

Thanks for all the suggestions, I may just go for the VT-4 after all, it seems like it would be the least hassle, if it doesn't fit my needs can send it back and go for Antares Throat, but I do dislike ilok.

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whyterabbyt
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Post Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:52 am

If its just a small amount of narration ie a single file, give me a shout, I can bounce it through Throat for you.
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