Brainworks Knifonium vs Uhe Diva

[EvilDragon]

Brilliant emphasis!

[audiot]

Diva is your cool dad, great dress sense, reliable, drives a Lexus but takes the Jaguar XJS out on weekends. Knifonium is your crazy Vietnam vet uncle who wears Hawaiian shirts, rides a Harley and never returns anything he borrows.

Divas are women ... usually.

[hivkorn]

i own both... Diva and Knif are not the same "type of synth" , but i think you should buy Diva and take a look at FF one...

[vurt]

its like asking people to pick their favourite child

obviously, the oldest one

[Jkist]

its like asking people to pick their favourite child

obviously, the oldest one

Now you wouldn't happen to be an oldest child would you? No way

[vurt]

its like asking people to pick their favourite child

obviously, the oldest one

Now you wouldn't happen to be an oldest child would you?

im actually the youngest, and im a total thundercunt


(only child)

[mdstudio]

There are better analog emulations now (including RePro) but Diva still has a place in anyone’s plugin folder.

What would you say is better than Diva, besides Repro? Legend and Obsession?

[Tendou]

There are better analog emulations now (including RePro) but Diva still has a place in anyone’s plugin folder.

What would you say is better than Diva, besides Repro? Legend and Obsession?

imho the only fair comparison here is Diva to Legend since Diva tries to emulate a Moog on certain settings) and
just the for the moog sound the legend is the best you can get. Diva just cant emulate an oberheim so to compare it to obsession is just wrong.
Diva is versatile and emulates many pieces but of course dedicated emulations of hardwares are superior (if its the same quality of emulation) but you gotta chose if you know enough about synth that you want to spend 3 times on 3 dedicated emulations or 1 time on a versatile synth which is great but not top notch but can emulate more than one (and yeah yeah I know repro1 is not a prophet but comparison to a mono synth was useless to my post)

[Rik]

Shame Knifonium doesn’t recall patches in Nuendo 10 and Studio One 5, Catalina.
Makes it unusable and for sale if anyone wants to buy it... DIVA works perfect!

Yes and that's a real red flag because I had similar issues with Lion. I reported all the details even provided a project to reproduce the issue, they acknowledged it but it never got fixed.

[Ploki]

Knifonium is coded like shit.
Parameter automation lags af (as does direct-interaction) and the lag changes with sampling rate. i.e. same pitch-bend data will sound different at 44,1 vs 48 (it's really obvious if you go 96)
also it changes sound significantly when you up sampling rates.
Release version also aliased like shit.
without FX it sounds like any stock synth in any DAW

Frankly if you like rough digital sounding shit just buy bazille - it sounds better than knifonium and offers more functionality.

If you like Knif you can also just use DAW stock synth and add free voxengo Tube Amp and something like D16 Decimort after it. To get that true analog tube digital aliasing.

[Tendou]

so bazille sucks and decimort as well? Im interested in this bc I wanted to buy uhe bazille and I use decimort for acid sounds, so please go a bit more i to detail plz!

[Arashi]

Diva is amazing.

I tried Knifonium and it does nothing for me. I went through most of the presets and tried tweaking some of them, and it’s just so boring. I don’t think it’s just a matter of mediocre presets; the presets for bx_oberhausen aren’t great either, but it’s still immediately obvious that the synth itself sounds really good. Knifonium doesn’t sound bad; I just don’t hear anything special or interesting about it at all. Seems like the saturation is supposed to be one of the key features. Maybe it’s impressive on the hardware version, but in the plugin it doesn’t sound like anything that can’t be done with any other saturation plugin (including the free Saturation Knob by Softube, which I use quite often).

So yeah. Diva.

[Ploki]

so bazille sucks and decimort as well? Im interested in this bc I wanted to buy uhe bazille and I use decimort for acid sounds, so please go a bit more i to detail plz!

no bazille is wonderful, actually my 2nd fav u-he synth, but it can be unapologetically and harshly digital. And i love decimort and bought it after 4 mins of demoing it.

but bazille is advertised as such, so is decimort - and that's what they're supposed to do.

knifonium isn't, although knifonium also sounds harshly digital and aliased lol

knifonium is supposed to be 26 tubes of analog goodness, but it sounds like Logic Retro Synth followed by a bad Decimort preset.

that's why i said, if you want a hard hitting raw synth, get bazille instead

[canadian_moose]

Im not sure I really get the PA /Brainworx stuff. Most of it just comes across as overpriced and cheap looking. I know there a few plugins from them that seem to be well regarded so maybe I'm just being picky.

[Ploki]

Im not sure I really get the PA /Brainworx stuff. Most of it just comes across as overpriced and cheap looking. I know there a few plugins from them that seem to be well regarded so maybe I'm just being picky.

it used to be good.
and a couple of their stuff is really really good, especially a few older ones.
They change devs often tho, and i suspect they're trying to push out as many plugs as possible as fast as possible, so the quality declines - also they do weird shit pricing to coerce you into their Mega subscription package. Quantity > quality mostly.
Others such as unfiltered, dmitry sches and similar that were bought into the fold and not coded by bx are generally fine