gary numan: opinions??
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- KVRAF
- 2135 posts since 12 Jul, 2004 from Brave New World
I liked the song he did for Toy Story. "You Got A Friend In Me"
that was a great piece.
that was a great piece.
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- KVRAF
- 2107 posts since 12 May, 2003 from gone
Randy Newman.intel wrote:I liked the song he did for Toy Story. "You Got A Friend In Me"
that was a great piece.
Mad TV does a great sendup of him
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- KVRAF
- 2135 posts since 12 Jul, 2004 from Brave New World
I saw that. could possibly have been the only funny thing ever on MadTV.
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
your friends name wouldn't be Marc is it? We could have the same friend. Back in the 80's lifelong friend (he was even my best man in 1978) was a huge Gary Numan fan, he was also the world's biggest musical snob. If he didn't like it ...forget it.ebinary wrote:I only know one hardcore Gary Numan fan, but that autobiog sounds like the kind of thing he would have shelled out for. He had tons of import g.n. albums back in the day.lucille wrote:I've been working my way through the more recent
recordings and I find myself really liking much of it. I never really cared for the 80's tubeway army stuff--just a little too cute. But the comeback stuff
is very nice. Odd that this one time poser now seems
an icon of authentic grit. Anyway I was rather shocked to see his autobiog selling for $70 on amazon--there must be some really loyal($) fans out there. Isn't he endorsing some music software too?
I've never been a big fan, but I do recall some pretty good fretless bass work on the older stuff.
Eric
His top three were Judas Priest, Accept and Gary Numan.
BTW a funny little story about this guy, ok it's a little mean but it's just so funny. He didn't play any musical instruments, he is in fact a genious though (very high IQ). He decided to have me teach him guitar when we were in our early 20's. He bought a 30th anniversary goldtop Les Paul and a Polytone amp.
You know the Les Paul litterally rusted in his closet for years. But that isn't a big surprise. See the very first time he sat down with the guitar after buying it there was an incedent.
He sat down, put the guitar in his lap, bent over to pick up the cord to plug it in. Well we guitar players know that Les Pauls have a very heavy ass and won't always sit stable in your lap...especially when you're shifting the position by bending over (kind to the side if you know what I mean). The guitar neck kicked right up in his face and gave him a fat lip.
It's not a good sign when your first ax attacts and draws blood the first time you play it. I can still hear him saying, "I knew this guitar hated me!!!Why, Why, Why did I buy this one"....and yes he is a genious, he makes alot of money designing robotics (or he did, I haven't seen him in a few years).
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- KVRAF
- 2107 posts since 12 May, 2003 from gone
Accept!!

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- KVRer
- 16 posts since 24 Jun, 2003
the 'Hybrid' album has a lot of his older songs reworked by people like Flood, Curve etc and is well worth a listen.
I remember a Numan quote from shortly after he crashed his plane 'I rate pilots second only to God, who I don't believe in anyway.'
I remember a Numan quote from shortly after he crashed his plane 'I rate pilots second only to God, who I don't believe in anyway.'
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- KVRist
- 135 posts since 27 Sep, 2003 from Reston, VA.
*Winces* Accept? How could he include them in with the other two?His top three were Judas Priest, Accept and Gary Numan.
- KVRist
- 211 posts since 12 Jul, 2004
Numan also said (at the top of his popularity) that even of you sell a million records, another 50 million people still hate you. And that is probably true in Numan's case as his music was either loved or hated at the time.
The main reason for such a vitriolic reaction to him in the music press was that he appeared into the limelight by his own self-promotion and efforts...he was was not a darling of NME and all those cronies...and the press never forgave him for that.
In my opinion, although he used electronica as a method to get famous, his biggest innovation was to put the rock back into star in an era when record companies were fat, overblown and clueless as punk was declining. Anyone who went to one of his shows in the earlier stages of his career was very lucky...they were awesome. He is still a credible perfomer now although a smaller scale.
I agree with recommendations here about Replicas, The Pleasure Principle, Telekon...but Dance really is the unsung hero - its chilled, its fretless, its electronic.
The main reason for such a vitriolic reaction to him in the music press was that he appeared into the limelight by his own self-promotion and efforts...he was was not a darling of NME and all those cronies...and the press never forgave him for that.
In my opinion, although he used electronica as a method to get famous, his biggest innovation was to put the rock back into star in an era when record companies were fat, overblown and clueless as punk was declining. Anyone who went to one of his shows in the earlier stages of his career was very lucky...they were awesome. He is still a credible perfomer now although a smaller scale.
I agree with recommendations here about Replicas, The Pleasure Principle, Telekon...but Dance really is the unsung hero - its chilled, its fretless, its electronic.
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- Banned
- 1319 posts since 29 Jul, 2002
replicas
pleasure principle
telekon...and the live album
pretty much sums up his career for me
I dropped out when he bought the plane and got the hair transplant
... and released that horrid 'warriors' album
the one Bill Nelson worked on and then subsequently had his name removed from the credits
I'm pretty sure the reason was nausea
pleasure principle
telekon...and the live album
pretty much sums up his career for me
I dropped out when he bought the plane and got the hair transplant
... and released that horrid 'warriors' album
the one Bill Nelson worked on and then subsequently had his name removed from the credits
I'm pretty sure the reason was nausea
- KVRist
- 211 posts since 12 Jul, 2004
Well, I've heard an outtake from the 'Poetry & Power' album produced with Bill Nelson and it is pants. I know Bill Nelson is a credible artist in his own right and Numan at this time had 4/5 years of glory days behind him...but the result was shite.
Nelson & Numan went their separate ways and Numan re-recorded 'Warriors' in a desperate effort to get back on schedule...the result is a mixture of good/bad/indifferent but holds no admiration from me...the original collaboration still holds a fascination if anyone could find the tapes.
Nelson & Numan went their separate ways and Numan re-recorded 'Warriors' in a desperate effort to get back on schedule...the result is a mixture of good/bad/indifferent but holds no admiration from me...the original collaboration still holds a fascination if anyone could find the tapes.
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- KVRian
- 1121 posts since 4 Jun, 2003 from Skanky Manc
I went to see him this year with the mrs, coz she's a fan. He was pretty metal actually!Kriminal wrote:Like Tubeway Army, and Numans early stuff, didnt listen to much after about 85 tho, so no idea what his new stuff is like.
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- Banned
- 1319 posts since 29 Jul, 2002
all I've got is the song 'poetry and power' as a b-side on the 7" single for 'sister suprise'Wicker Man wrote:Well, I've heard an outtake from the 'Poetry & Power' album produced with Bill Nelson and it is pants. I know Bill Nelson is a credible artist in his own right and Numan at this time had 4/5 years of glory days behind him...but the result was shite.
Nelson & Numan went their separate ways and Numan re-recorded 'Warriors' in a desperate effort to get back on schedule...the result is a mixture of good/bad/indifferent but holds no admiration from me...the original collaboration still holds a fascination if anyone could find the tapes.
the only one I have from that time because Bill Nelson is all over it (singing on the chorus as well)
and the sax at the end made it a keeper
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- KVRAF
- 1644 posts since 18 Mar, 2004 from Lincoln, CA
Gary Numan is a mixed bag. I both like and dislike him.
1)He's an attention whore, hungry for fame. That was his motivation to do music. It wasn't about music--it was about being a famous rockstar. He said so himself.
2) He did make some nice tunes, and his recent comeback is well-deserved. He's earned it.
3) He is definitely a one trick poney. His shit all have the same melodies and arrangement. He sings in the same tone--that's all he knows. And he sure loves singing about hating God, making fun of God, mocking God, and kissing up to the devil. Isn't he waaay too old for that kind of teenage angst?
4) Sacrifice, Exile, and Pure are nice. But, damn, the drum programming in Exile is the most repetitive crap I've ever heard. There's not one f**king drum fill--just one or two patterns repeating for the entire song--and all the songs are like that.
Anyway, his good stuff can be very catchy--and that's where he deserved his success. But as a musician, he hasn't really grown at all. Incorporating the recent stylistic movements in industrial/goth into your repertoire doesn't = growth.
1)He's an attention whore, hungry for fame. That was his motivation to do music. It wasn't about music--it was about being a famous rockstar. He said so himself.
2) He did make some nice tunes, and his recent comeback is well-deserved. He's earned it.
3) He is definitely a one trick poney. His shit all have the same melodies and arrangement. He sings in the same tone--that's all he knows. And he sure loves singing about hating God, making fun of God, mocking God, and kissing up to the devil. Isn't he waaay too old for that kind of teenage angst?
4) Sacrifice, Exile, and Pure are nice. But, damn, the drum programming in Exile is the most repetitive crap I've ever heard. There's not one f**king drum fill--just one or two patterns repeating for the entire song--and all the songs are like that.
Anyway, his good stuff can be very catchy--and that's where he deserved his success. But as a musician, he hasn't really grown at all. Incorporating the recent stylistic movements in industrial/goth into your repertoire doesn't = growth.
