Let's say I have some short MIDI and/or audio events in the middle of the song, but want to export/render all the tracks out individually starting at bar 1. In Logic or Studio One I am able to select a locator range and render the entire track (or whatever region length I want) even though the actual events themselves are not starting at bar 1.
I know I can solo the MIDI track and export it as an audio mixdown, but thought there would be a way to specifically export individual tracks specifying the range (e.g. starting at bar 1 or according to the locator range) all together instead of doing them one by one via Export>Audio mix.
If not, I'll just solo the track and export it as an audio mix down.
Thank you!
Cubase Pro: Render/export files out from bar 1 other than exporting audio mix
Oh geez I thought I said that... Cubase Pro 10.5. So sorry!-
- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
Loop the range and click export. You then specify the track(s) you wish to export.
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
Not following, sorry.
It wouldn’t list MIDI tracks because they’re not audio and therefore wouldn’t be in the render list.
What are you using MIDI tracks for: external or as a sidechain trigger? That’s all the uses I can think otherwise you’d just use an instrument track and these do appear in the render list.
It wouldn’t list MIDI tracks because they’re not audio and therefore wouldn’t be in the render list.
What are you using MIDI tracks for: external or as a sidechain trigger? That’s all the uses I can think otherwise you’d just use an instrument track and these do appear in the render list.
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
Ok, I can sort this.
Cubase will render from one of two situations:
1) the right and left locators. There is a redundant bit in the Export Audio dialog for setting these locators (I never noticed it until I prepared to answer this). I find 'allows' below an odd choice of words because you don't need this.
2) it will print multiple ranges using cycle markers
You may well understand most of this, but you seem to need this bit: any track may be selected (the track itself rather than just click on its Inspector), including a MIDI track and our right-click menu includes Render In Place, with settings. Settings there is not the Audio Export dialog. I don't work this way but it looks like the multiple ranges is strictly from Audio Export.
Cubase will render from one of two situations:
1) the right and left locators. There is a redundant bit in the Export Audio dialog for setting these locators (I never noticed it until I prepared to answer this). I find 'allows' below an odd choice of words because you don't need this.
2) it will print multiple ranges using cycle markers
pg 1021 of the manual wrote: Locators
Allows you to export the locator range.
Cycle Markers
Allows you to activate one or more cycle marker ranges for export. MixConsole settings, record enable, and insert effects are taken into account. An individual file is created for each activated cycle marker range.
NOTE
Only the cycle markers of the active marker track can be selected.
You may well understand most of this, but you seem to need this bit: any track may be selected (the track itself rather than just click on its Inspector), including a MIDI track and our right-click menu includes Render In Place, with settings. Settings there is not the Audio Export dialog. I don't work this way but it looks like the multiple ranges is strictly from Audio Export.
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
If that isn't it, you may want the kind of batch export in Export Audio: Channel Selection, the tab "Multiple"; a dialog where you see all the possible outputs which may be rendered. IE: you want separate stems from different instruments (Instrument Channels) or audio tracks or what-have-you, Groups, there it is.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 722 posts since 23 Jun, 2004
Yes that clarifies it, thanks. I say MIDI track meaning instrument track (coming from other DAW-speak where MIDI meant instrument). In a project that had audio and instrument tracks, only the audio and stem groups were listed and the instrument tracks were skipped—that was what made me question it. Otherwise the export would have been what I expected. So I have to figure out why mine aren’t showing up...they are enabled tracks.
As for mixing, I’m getting familiar with Cubase and made a macro to quickly render an instrument track then disable and hide it, leaving only the resultant audio to mix in the same project. The benefit there is if I want to add something, or modify the MIDI, I don’t have to jump around between projects. Or 2) I could leave instruments live and mix that way as many do, or 3) print the tracks and mix their audio in a new project. I do like having the audio and MIDI files saved externally for longevity since plugins may no longer work/DAW change etc. I never totally got used to mixing without first rendering, old habit, so I’m deciding which way I want to work now. Do you find one way working better for you over another? Thanks.
As for mixing, I’m getting familiar with Cubase and made a macro to quickly render an instrument track then disable and hide it, leaving only the resultant audio to mix in the same project. The benefit there is if I want to add something, or modify the MIDI, I don’t have to jump around between projects. Or 2) I could leave instruments live and mix that way as many do, or 3) print the tracks and mix their audio in a new project. I do like having the audio and MIDI files saved externally for longevity since plugins may no longer work/DAW change etc. I never totally got used to mixing without first rendering, old habit, so I’m deciding which way I want to work now. Do you find one way working better for you over another? Thanks.
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
Yeah, Logic treats MIDI and Instrument channels as one thing. I couldn't stand that. In Cubase you can send MIDI volume/CC7 independently of the Instrument channel. The way I think of this is CC7 is the amount of energy going to the instrument versus the output level in the mix.
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
I mix all along. At some point I may render some things, for particular reasons. I may just render a 2-file and sort-of master that, though.
Things which ring a long time, very wet things so that in some spots it's a long wait before I can hit play, I tend to render.
When I do render 'during' rather than just before finalizing a mix, I render the reverb separately from the source. I use VE Pro, and I'll only return one up to four stereo outs, because I mix using it (automation map, for example I can see the exact names of parameters eg., drum names) and Cubase almost not at all. 1-2 is the Master Out where the room is sent to from those instruments' channels and I'll use an output say 3-4 for the instrument I'm printing.
This way is a hybrid of committing and not committing, I mean I could just finalize this automating the reverb sends &cet perfectly/set in stone = fewer files but I have more flexibility with an audio track 'Inst name/wet'.
Things which ring a long time, very wet things so that in some spots it's a long wait before I can hit play, I tend to render.
When I do render 'during' rather than just before finalizing a mix, I render the reverb separately from the source. I use VE Pro, and I'll only return one up to four stereo outs, because I mix using it (automation map, for example I can see the exact names of parameters eg., drum names) and Cubase almost not at all. 1-2 is the Master Out where the room is sent to from those instruments' channels and I'll use an output say 3-4 for the instrument I'm printing.
This way is a hybrid of committing and not committing, I mean I could just finalize this automating the reverb sends &cet perfectly/set in stone = fewer files but I have more flexibility with an audio track 'Inst name/wet'.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 722 posts since 23 Jun, 2004
No. I’ll have to check another project, maybe something had gone amiss in this one since it only lists audio and skips the rest. They weren’t hidden in visibility. Thank you Jan.
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
disable preferences and see if the project behaves right. Open the project with disabled preferences, quit Cubase and open it again. that's a one-time disable preferences, subsequently it opens normally.
something is wrong, and this is the kind of inexplicable that means something somewhere is corrupt.
something is wrong, and this is the kind of inexplicable that means something somewhere is corrupt.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 722 posts since 23 Jun, 2004
I took those steps and it has resolved the issue. Exporting files from other DAWs was straightforward, so was hard to believe that the export feature would only offer export for only half of my tracks, and with limited options, especially from a DAW that has been around as long as this one has. Now my window looks like the pic here. Many thanks!