2020 a year in gear (what have you/are you bought/buying?)

[pekbro]

Yeah, that's me trying to get him to build a sampler

Ahh, HA! HA! that's pretty funny.

[Mushy Mushy]

I'm currently using a MOTU16a, with a Lynx Aurora16 for 32 Inputs and Outputs. But since I have the Aurora connected via ADAT, I could only go up to 48k, without losing I/Os. I have 2 projects coming up, for which I will need to work at 96k, so an upgrade is required.
I'm in the process of switching to a Dante setup with a Focusrite Red 8Pre, a Rednet A16r and a Neve 1073OPX. This will give me 42 Inputs and 36 outputs, which can all run at up to 192k.

I read this paragraph and had a heart attack with your suggestions. I needed to double check I wasn't actually at GS Mate, thats quite a nice upgrade you have coming. That many channels at 96k is some serious throughput.

Mushy, I would definitely recommend looking at the available Dante options, as there are quiet a few affordable I/O boxes with tons of I/O. Tascam makes a 32 channel 1u A/D D/A for around $2k USD. The nice thing about Dante, is how easily expandable it is. And unlike MOTU AVB interfaces, they don't require a proprietary switch and I will be able to easily integrate converters from other brands, so I can switch out the A16r for a Burl Mothership or a newer Lynx interface.

Ah, heart attack averted. Now we're talking, Dante is by far the best solution so far. A cursory review brings up several options with 32 inputs for less than €2k which is still a lot of money but reasonable for what I'm asking.

Thanks man

[Mushy Mushy]

Woohoo!!!! Worked it out

1x RME RayDAT card
4x Behringer ADA8200 converters
1x 4U rack (to live in the corner behind the desk out of sight)

= 32 analog I/O + 2 MIDI I/O for €1200

I'd actually go so far as to say that's a bargain.

[imrae]

That is a pretty economical and powerful solution
I've wondered about a similar setup for myself. Would be tempted to go for at least one higher-end converter and then expand with 8200 units for more channels. But in general home studio people seem pretty happy with the 8200 so maybe that's unnecessary.

Bear in mind that none of that stuff comes with a headphone amp, so you may need to add a little monitoring solution if you don't have one.

[Mushy Mushy]

That is a pretty economical and powerful solution
I've wondered about a similar setup for myself. Would be tempted to go for at least one higher-end converter and then expand with 8200 units for more channels. But in general home studio people seem pretty happy with the 8200 so maybe that's unnecessary.

Bear in mind that none of that stuff comes with a headphone amp, so you may need to add a little monitoring solution if you don't have one.

The plan will be to go with this initially to get all the wiring in place and just a working solution, then upgrade to the RME 32 DA later (thats silly money though so a while off).

I do already have a headphone amp so covered there.

[lfm]

Woohoo!!!! Worked it out

1x RME RayDAT card
4x Behringer ADA8200 converters
1x 4U rack (to live in the corner behind the desk out of sight)

= 32 analog I/O + 2 MIDI I/O for €1200

I'd actually go so far as to say that's a bargain.

Don't forget wordclock module, you will need that if more than one ADAT.

Or maybe not if using both ways ADAT on all of them.

RME support will give quick answer.

[WatchTheGuitar]

Having picked up a Behringer ADA8200 a couple of months ago I think it's great value and the line level inputs are fine, only heard people knocking it on its outputs something I (and obviously you) don't care about. What I'd mention if you didn't know is that the inputs are at the front of the unit so if you're going to rack four of them just make sure you take that into consideration when you're planning where it'll go.

[Mushy Mushy]

Woohoo!!!! Worked it out

1x RME RayDAT card
4x Behringer ADA8200 converters
1x 4U rack (to live in the corner behind the desk out of sight)

= 32 analog I/O + 2 MIDI I/O for €1200

I'd actually go so far as to say that's a bargain.

Don't forget wordclock module, you will need that if more than one ADAT.

Or maybe not if using both ways ADAT on all of them.

RME support will give quick answer.

Oh FFS! It never ends.

Ok, thanks I guess

EDIT: Are you sure? I assume the wordclock is to keep them all in sync however the RME has 4 ins and outs so surely that does it at source

[Mushy Mushy]

Having picked up a Behringer ADA8200 a couple of months ago I think it's great value and the line level inputs are fine, only heard people knocking it on its outputs something I (and obviously you) don't care about. What I'd mention if you didn't know is that the inputs are at the front of the unit so if you're going to rack four of them just make sure you take that into consideration when you're planning where it'll go.

Yep, I noticed that. I think the 4U rack will end up being 6U with a gap in slots 3 and 6 and the cables feeding through there.

[whyterabbyt]

Woohoo!!!! Worked it out

1x RME RayDAT card
4x Behringer ADA8200 converters
1x 4U rack (to live in the corner behind the desk out of sight)

= 32 analog I/O + 2 MIDI I/O for €1200

I'd actually go so far as to say that's a bargain.

Don't forget wordclock module, you will need that if more than one ADAT.

Or maybe not if using both ways ADAT on all of them.

RME support will give quick answer.

Oh FFS! It never ends.

Ok, thanks I guess

FWIW, try it without first, with the RayDAT as master clock over ADAT. Ive not had any problem with my 8200 or my EMU syncing over ADAT from my MAudio 2626. If it can handle 16 external IO channel sets without issues, I imagine the RayDAT should be fine with 32.

[lfm]

Oh FFS! It never ends.

Ok, thanks I guess

EDIT: Are you sure? I assume the wordclock is to keep them all in sync however the RME has 4 ins and outs so surely that does it at source

I think you are right, if ADAT in and ADAT out is connected to all ADA8200 sync will be alright. You set RayDAT to sync to first unit, then the rest are ok.

Unless 96k, then two ADAT are needed for 8 channels. Not sure if ADA8200 support that even.

[WatchTheGuitar]

The ADA8200 only supports 44.1kHz or 48kHz selectable via a switch on the back of the unit.

I've just realised this discussion about RayDAT etc is potentially very useful as I've only got four free inputs now and have my eye on more hardware.

Also, Amazon have 5 in stock selling at £146 with Prime delivery
https://www.amazon.co.uk/behringer-ADA8 ... ast_sto_dp

[foosnark]

Having picked up a Behringer ADA8200 a couple of months ago I think it's great value and the line level inputs are fine, only heard people knocking it on its outputs something I (and obviously you) don't care about. What I'd mention if you didn't know is that the inputs are at the front of the unit so if you're going to rack four of them just make sure you take that into consideration when you're planning where it'll go.

Yep, I noticed that. I think the 4U rack will end up being 6U with a gap in slots 3 and 6 and the cables feeding through there.

Good to leave some ventilation anyway... I don't know if the ADA8200 runs warm but the UMC1820 (which uses the same preamps) sure does.

[Mushy Mushy]

Great, thanks all.

I will try without first and do think it will be ok. I'm really excited to get this going now.

Yes, it will be 48kHz with no desire to move to 96kHz.

[vurt]

/goes lofi and cheap ass way...
mixer in to audio interface

unless of course anyone would like to invest in vurts studio overhaul