EDIT: 3 Cubase questions: Divide track list and centre loop range key commands, change QC resolution

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1. Is there a key command that allows me to minimise the divide track list? I know I can close it completely but that's not what I want. Instead I want the top section to be reduced and the lower section to move to the very top (ie, exactly as it would with moving the horizontal bar up).

2. When zooming in/out Cubase uses the current point of the cursor/playhead as the centre point. Is there a way to add a key command to automatically go to the centre of the looped range. It will then be two keys to zoom in/out of a particular loop.

I've looked in key commands for both and can't find anything.
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3. Is there a way to change the resolution (ie, min/max values) in Quick Controls. I’m using the arp and the max value is a ludicrous 2/1 and I’d like to restrict it to 1/4.
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Mushy Mushy wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:18 pm 3. Is there a way to change the resolution (ie, min/max values) in Quick Controls. I’m using the arp and the max value is a ludicrous 2/1 and I’d like to restrict it to 1/4.
I've never found a way of doing that inside Cubase (unless you do some pretty crazy virtual midi cabling with midi loopback ports).

An alternative might be to limit the range the hardware controller sends(if your hardware controller has that feature).

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Mushy Mushy wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:26 am 1. Is there a key command that allows me to minimise the divide track list? I know I can close it completely but that's not what I want. Instead I want the top section to be reduced and the lower section to move to the very top (ie, exactly as it would with moving the horizontal bar up).
One way of doing that (and more) is to use the Workspaces feature. Save one Workspace with it showing, then move the horizontal bar to hide it, and save another Workspace. The first x Workspaces can be recalled via keyboard shortcut. -- However, depending on how you work, this may or may not not be entirely satisfying, since it's not a very granular level control, because Workspaces save the entire window layout.

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noizejoy wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:25 am
Mushy Mushy wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:18 pm 3. Is there a way to change the resolution (ie, min/max values) in Quick Controls. I’m using the arp and the max value is a ludicrous 2/1 and I’d like to restrict it to 1/4.
I've never found a way of doing that inside Cubase (unless you do some pretty crazy virtual midi cabling with midi loopback ports).

An alternative might be to limit the range the hardware controller sends(if your hardware controller has that feature).
I've discovered it is possible with the MIDI Transformer function only it's not working for me. Need to keep looking into it.
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

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noizejoy wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:40 am
Mushy Mushy wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:26 am 1. Is there a key command that allows me to minimise the divide track list? I know I can close it completely but that's not what I want. Instead I want the top section to be reduced and the lower section to move to the very top (ie, exactly as it would with moving the horizontal bar up).
One way of doing that (and more) is to use the Workspaces feature. Save one Workspace with it showing, then move the horizontal bar to hide it, and save another Workspace. The first x Workspaces can be recalled via keyboard shortcut. -- However, depending on how you work, this may or may not not be entirely satisfying, since it's not a very granular level control, because Workspaces save the entire window layout.
I like your thinking but you're right that it will have unintended consequences. For example, if I have various tracks minimised it will then maximise them again. Worthy of investigating though :tu:
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

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Mushy Mushy wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:48 pm
noizejoy wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:25 am
Mushy Mushy wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:18 pm 3. Is there a way to change the resolution (ie, min/max values) in Quick Controls. I’m using the arp and the max value is a ludicrous 2/1 and I’d like to restrict it to 1/4.
I've never found a way of doing that inside Cubase (unless you do some pretty crazy virtual midi cabling with midi loopback ports).

An alternative might be to limit the range the hardware controller sends(if your hardware controller has that feature).
I've discovered it is possible with the MIDI Transformer function only it's not working for me. Need to keep looking into it.
It won't work (to the best of my experimentation), because the midi messages assigned to Quick Controls are filtered from being sent to midi tracks in the Project. While that's generally a good thing (so you don't accidentally send midi controller messages to the track, that you intended as quick controls).

So to make that happen with the help of midi re-looping (at OS level), you could try something like this:
  • route controller input to a regular midi track, and
  • output from that track to a virtual midi cable (on Windows I use loopmidi for that kind of thing -- there's something similar for the Mac, but the name escapes me)
  • do Midi Transformer transformations on that track
  • assign input of Quick Controls to the virtual midi cable
Yep it's crazy :bang:
and it could be done with real midi cables, if you have spare USB / MIDI devices :-)

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noizejoy wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:14 pm
Mushy Mushy wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:48 pm
noizejoy wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:25 am
Mushy Mushy wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:18 pm 3. Is there a way to change the resolution (ie, min/max values) in Quick Controls. I’m using the arp and the max value is a ludicrous 2/1 and I’d like to restrict it to 1/4.
I've never found a way of doing that inside Cubase (unless you do some pretty crazy virtual midi cabling with midi loopback ports).

An alternative might be to limit the range the hardware controller sends(if your hardware controller has that feature).
I've discovered it is possible with the MIDI Transformer function only it's not working for me. Need to keep looking into it.
It won't work (to the best of my experimentation), because the midi messages assigned to Quick Controls are filtered from being sent to midi tracks in the Project. While that's generally a good thing (so you don't accidentally send midi controller messages to the track, that you intended as quick controls).

So to make that happen with the help of midi re-looping (at OS level), you could try something like this:
  • route controller input to a regular midi track, and
  • output from that track to a virtual midi cable (on Windows I use loopmidi for that kind of thing -- there's something similar for the Mac, but the name escapes me)
  • do Midi Transformer transformations on that track
  • assign input of Quick Controls to the virtual midi cable
Yep it's crazy :bang:
and it could be done with real midi cables, if you have spare USB / MIDI devices :-)
Wow, thanks for your thorough explanation. You've probably worked out by now this request is linked to the Transformer thread you also helped me with.

My experience supports exactly what you've mentioned above. I can get the Transformer to work perfectly but as soon as it's part of the Quick Controls it stops.

As a workaround I've ordered another cheap MIDI controller that has the ability to define the CC range at source. This should do the trick, otherwise it's the virtual MIDI solution you propose above.

Thanks for all your help :tu:
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

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Mushy Mushy wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:53 pm ....

Wow, thanks for your thorough explanation. You've probably worked out by now this request is linked to the Transformer thread you also helped me with.

My experience supports exactly what you've mentioned above. I can get the Transformer to work perfectly but as soon as it's part of the Quick Controls it stops.

As a workaround I've ordered another cheap MIDI controller that has the ability to define the CC range at source. This should do the trick, otherwise it's the virtual MIDI solution you propose above.

Thanks for all your help :tu:
Glad I could help a little -- Good luck in your controller adventures!

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