Timing Issue
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Eclectrophonic Eclectrophonic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=336599
- KVRist
- 330 posts since 24 Aug, 2014
Hi All!
Working on a song and I get the feeling this song isn't 4/4 timing. When I try to loop it, it seems to not loop in time, I have to increase the length of the first note of the bass to get it sitting right.
Here is a clip of the bass and drums so you get what I mean.
https://soundcloud.com/creativemind75/s ... SQW9B41wP6
Thanks!
Working on a song and I get the feeling this song isn't 4/4 timing. When I try to loop it, it seems to not loop in time, I have to increase the length of the first note of the bass to get it sitting right.
Here is a clip of the bass and drums so you get what I mean.
https://soundcloud.com/creativemind75/s ... SQW9B41wP6
Thanks!
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
it's in 4/4, there is no problem. You seem to be thrown by the bass syncopation a 16th ahead of ONE. Which isn't that unusual. It isn't that convincingly done, there, but
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Eclectrophonic Eclectrophonic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=336599
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 330 posts since 24 Aug, 2014
4/4, ok thanks.jancivil wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:50 am it's in 4/4, there is no problem. You seem to be thrown by the bass syncopation a 16th ahead of ONE. Which isn't that unusual. It isn't that convincingly done, there, but
Need to look into syncopation. I'm no bass player nor drummer either. Everything done by ear.
Last edited by Eclectrophonic on Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.
- KVRAF
- 43996 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
If you put down a click track, you'll find the correct loop point.
The syncopation thing. Here's an excellent tutorial with a similar type idea to your own track.
Here's the original song.
The syncopation thing. Here's an excellent tutorial with a similar type idea to your own track.
Here's the original song.
This is the same method MJ used when he was working on Anthony Marinelli's Thriller.
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Eclectrophonic Eclectrophonic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=336599
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 330 posts since 24 Aug, 2014
Ahh so it's doing a bass line but sounding the notes on e and a of a 1e & a. It's a bit like in trance music how you sound the bass notes on the offbeats so if you went 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 with the numbers being the kick beats, sounding the bass on the &'s. Would that be classed as syncopation?
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
any emphasis not on the 'beat' (while there is still a pronounced beat, of course) is called syncopation. EG: the 16th before 1 is 'more' syncopated. 
Some definitions base on 'the strong beats', ie., 1 2 (3) 4 is syncopated.
Some definitions base on 'the strong beats', ie., 1 2 (3) 4 is syncopated.