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lulukom wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:44 am Hello ! 31 beta .. Can anyone please explain?
Double chromatic mediant chords are offered in the suggestions
In the previous beta I had it, but now I don't see it .. Am I missing something?
Blue rectangle is displayed around the keyboard focus area (with own colour setting)
What is it about ? And where is it?
Thank . Mac Os .
You should see a blue box around the area you click, timeline, track, workspace or chords area..


enable new chord suggestions by clicking hamburger menu..

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Many thanks ! )

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BluGenes wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:41 am Box select ALL the notes in the editor and when you bring up the note inspector, you see an options to ignore non-existent chord notes, un-check that. When that is applies, all the notes are displayed in the composition.
Thanks.

That got me as far as getting my desired inversion to appear (sometimes) when I drag the phrase up/down in the composition, but the inversion would only appear in every other octave - and not in the octave I wanted it!

By moving the entire set of notes in the Phrase Editor down one octave I was able to finally get my desired inversion in the desired octave.

Is the above behavior to-be-expected? Or is it not-as-intended?

Having established a set of notes to constitute the phrase, I would wishfully/naively expect to be able to drag the phrase up/down in the composition and get each inversion in all the octaves ...

Here is the local goal, achieved: (but not easily)

RC - 4 Chord Goal 01.jpg
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sj1 wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:06 pm
BluGenes wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:41 am Box select ALL the notes in the editor and when you bring up the note inspector, you see an options to ignore non-existent chord notes, un-check that. When that is applies, all the notes are displayed in the composition.
Thanks.

That got me as far as getting my desired inversion to appear (sometimes) when I drag the phrase up/down in the composition, but the inversion would only appear in every other octave - and not in the octave I wanted it!

By moving the entire set of notes in the Phrase Editor down one octave I was able to finally get my desired inversion in the desired octave.

Is the above behavior to-be-expected? Or is it not-as-intended?

Having established a set of notes to constitute the phrase, I would wishfully/naively expect to be able to drag the phrase up/down in the composition and get each inversion in all the octaves ...

Here is the local goal, achieved: (but not easily)


RC - 4 Chord Goal 01.jpg
That is the behavior to be expected..

You have a couple of options.. If the composition is a one of kind, meaning, you won't need to worry about this again, just grin and bear it. The reason is, there is no way that every conceivable possibility can be accounted for without an excessive amount of coding to the software.

My disclaimer: I am looking at the problem from a programmers point of view. If Attila wanted to take the amount of time to do that, then that's his call. I wouldn't, personally, because it is to much for very little use. (why the phrase editor exists anyways)

The second option is to make the desired adjustments and save that chord as a phrase to the browser. Then, if the need arises, you have it.. and it's already worked out and translatable..

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Finally the disappearing phrase problem has been solved!
I was able to reproduce and fix it.
Thanks!
Attila
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musicdevelopments wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:13 pm Finally the disappearing phrase problem has been solved!
I was able to reproduce and fix it.
Thanks!
Attila
THAT's good news! :party:
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BluGenes wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:50 pm That is the behavior to be expected..

You have a couple of options.. If the composition is a one of kind, meaning, you won't need to worry about this again, just grin and bear it. The reason is, there is no way that every conceivable possibility can be accounted for without an excessive amount of coding to the software.

My disclaimer: I am looking at the problem from a programmers point of view. If Attila wanted to take the amount of time to do that, then that's his call. I wouldn't, personally, because it is to much for very little use. (why the phrase editor exists anyways)

The second option is to make the desired adjustments and save that chord as a phrase to the browser. Then, if the need arises, you have it.. and it's already worked out and translatable..
Thanks kindly for the options and commentary!

Conceptually though, I do not get the how or why of my target inversion only happening in every other octave.

What is the feature that causes that? Is it explained anywhere?

By what virtue is such behavior desired as vs. having the inversion happen in every octave?

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I would like to continue the topic of disappearing phrases / files ...
Probably Attila has already fixed something, but I noticed that when I drag a midi file from my computer to a track, the file appears on the track and after a short time disappears. And on the head of the track, the midi file is not dragged at all (

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RapidComposer v3.9b32 is available!

Improvements:
  • Configurable behaviour regarding timeline selection when zooming in/out from lines/parts. New settings "When zooming into lines/parts", "When zooming out from lines/parts"
  • Shift-doubleclick on the structure bar zooms into parts
  • Fixed: phrases do not disappear anymore
  • Fixed Idea Tool which became unresponsive after generation
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I agree that the inversion in the phrase editor causes confusion, that should not be there at all. Honestly I have not thought of that before. Inversion, just like variations is a transformation on the <source phrase>. It rearranges the chord notes, and inserts extra phrase notes, or may remove some other notes.

On the other hand, there should be another voicing 'mode' to introduce. The current implementation duplicates phrase notes (when the voicing has a duplicated note) but this is not always desirable. Sometimes you want to make up a chord and use only those notes in the phrase, like for guitar chords which typically include the same note in different octaves. You could make a 'chord' like C3, C4, C5 and use these notes in the arpeggiator. This is not possible today, but will be when the new mode is implemented. (I remember tonedef requested this some time ago.)

So the voicing in the phrase editor should be there, but working only in the new voicing mode to be added shortly. I am sorry for the confusion.

Thanks,
Attila
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Thanks Attila! Major breakdowns fixed!

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musicdevelopments wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:14 am RapidComposer v3.9b32 is available!

Improvements:
  • Configurable behaviour regarding timeline selection when zooming in/out from lines/parts. New settings "When zooming into lines/parts", "When zooming out from lines/parts"
  • Shift-doubleclick on the structure bar zooms into parts
  • Fixed: phrases do not disappear anymore
  • Fixed Idea Tool which became unresponsive after generation
Can you clarify the double click to zoom? Is this from the structure browser? Time line?

I see no difference if I shift double click or just double click.. That is with both the time line or the structure browser..

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musicdevelopments wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:14 am Improvements:
  • Configurable behaviour regarding timeline selection when zooming in/out from lines/parts. New settings "When zooming into lines/parts", "When zooming out from lines/parts"
  • Shift-doubleclick on the structure bar zooms into parts
Super-slick, super Rapid! Really well done.

Shift-doubleclick to do parts instead of lines is brilliant. I love it!

BTW, in case anyone is looking, the new settings mentioned are in Settings -> Miscellaneous -> Editing, at the bottom.

Bravo and thanks!

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BluGenes wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:43 am Can you clarify the double click to zoom? Is this from the structure browser? Time line?
On the Timeline, double-click on a Line and you zoom into the Line.

But if you Shift-double-click in the same place you get zoomed to the enclosing Part.

It's very handy!

Note: Generally if you did Shift-double-click to zoom to the Part, you'll want to also Shift-double-click to zoom back out to the composition. If you instead do only a double-click you'll continue inward to the Line level.
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The new zooming options make this quite configurable.

Here is my favorite based on my most common workflow:

RC- Zooming Options.jpg

but I'll probably use others also from time-to-time.
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