RAPID Synthesizer | Rapid 1.8.0 released | Free "SP - Granular Elements"

[gabrielefx]

I already wrote to customer support, but I was just curious if anyone else had problems with notes "sticking" in this plugin? I really do love this synth, but its the only plugin I have where notes will randomly not detect, or they get stuck playing until I hit the same note again or the panic button.

I have the same issue on MacOS, Catalina.
It happens specially at 96Khz. Rarely at 48Khz.

[simmo75]

Hi Parawave, you didn't reply...

Will you begin to allow license transfers of Rapid?

[Jkist]

I already wrote to customer support, but I was just curious if anyone else had problems with notes "sticking" in this plugin? I really do love this synth, but its the only plugin I have where notes will randomly not detect, or they get stuck playing until I hit the same note again or the panic button.

I have the same issue on MacOS, Catalina.
It happens specially at 96Khz. Rarely at 48Khz.

I ended up having to set my buffer size to 256 to make it go away. Not ideal, but it did fix my issue.

[gabrielefx]

Hi,
Rapid is a fantastic synth with great potential. I think it's the easier virtual synth to program on the market. Probably it lacks some crispness I find in other virtual synthesizers. Many presets have the so called "ringing effect".
I analyzed some foundamental waveforms. Probably the best sounding engine is Dune 3 because it has also a VA waveforms generator but Serum saw is nearly identical to the Dune 3 VA engine.
Also Avenger is fine.
The Rapid sound output as an heavy hight cut filter, it can't reach the same high frequencies of the other synths.
I'm not an audio engineer, I'm an hobbist and technology lover but I can clearly hear on my studio monitors (Focal) or headphone if a sound is muffled.
Also the reverbs don't sound like the Valhalla ones.
I think in the Rapid dsp there are some restrictions to make the 192 oscillators playing without any issue.

regards.

[zvenx]

Of course this inspired me to go see for myself.
Firstly I assumed they all used Saw Wave as their init patch as I didn't make sure.
I also turned off all filters etc like you did...
Also I tried to match the levels. For whatever reason my Avenger was much lower in volume.

I then played middle C on all four, then went up three octaves to that C. All at 44.1khz


I then repeated at 96khz.

I didn't find what you found. I found Rapid, Dune and Serum all were roughly the same, but it was Avenger that had less higher frequency.

I also tried another spectrum analyzer other than SB's Basic one in Cubase 10.5.

[the.new.me]

Hi,
Rapid is a fantastic synth with great potential. I think it's the easier virtual synth to program on the market. Probably it lacks some crispness I find in other virtual synthesizers. Many presets have the so called "ringing effect".
I analyzed some foundamental waveforms. Probably the best sounding engine is Dune 3 because it has also a VA waveforms generator but Serum saw is nearly identical to the Dune 3 VA engine.
Also Avenger is fine.
The Rapid sound output as an heavy hight cut filter, it can't reach the same high frequencies of the other synths.
I'm not an audio engineer, I'm an hobbist and technology lover but I can clearly hear on my studio monitors (Focal) or headphone if a sound is muffled.
Also the reverbs don't sound like the Valhalla ones.
I think in the Rapid dsp there are some restrictions to make the 192 oscillators playing without any issue.

regards.

1. Dunes VA isnt the best one. Its way too subjective in general and mostly based on personal preferences. Its my most used synth by the way.
2. Also that Rapid has a cutoff at 22k doesnt mean its worse, in fact Rapid has very clean sound that is easy to mix especialy this can be heard when adding distortions.
3. I believe you are biased Rapid being muffled or your equiptment translates the sound not very well. Maybe wrong presets? dont know. But thats not my expierience with Rapid (or mentioned synths, because im using them all).
4. Why reverb of Rapid has to sound like Valhalla?

[gabrielefx]

The previous test was generated pressing the key C4. The daw is Bitwig latest version on MacOS at 96Khz.
There is another issue with Rapid in the filter design.
I did a comparison with the Zebra 2 12db low pass filter and the same on Rapid.
Zebra dims completely the sound, it's not audible, Rapid generates a sound in the audible spectrum.
The key pressed now is C1.
I don't know if it's a normal Rapid filter behavior. If I close this type of filter generally I should not hear any sound.

regards

[the.new.me]

The previous test was generated pressing the key C4. The daw is Bitwig latest version on MacOS at 96Khz.
There is another issue with Rapid in the filter design.
I did a comparison with the Zebra 2 12db low pass filter and the same on Rapid.
Zebra dims completely the sound, it's not audible, Rapid generates a sound in the audible spectrum.
The key pressed now is C1.
I don't know if it's a normal Rapid filter behavior. If I close this type of filter generally I should not hear any sound.

regards

1. Loudness levels mightve been inequal. Rapid here dims out inaudible.
2. Rapid has more then 1 filter, same like Zebra 2 has

Whats the point of all these "tests"?

[gabrielefx]

1. Dunes VA isnt the best one. Its way too subjective in general and mostly based on personal preferences. Its my most used synth by the way.
2. Also that Rapid has a cutoff at 22k doesnt mean its worse, in fact Rapid has very clean sound that is easy to mix especialy this can be heard when adding distortions.
3. I believe you are biased Rapid being muffled or your equiptment translates the sound not very well. Maybe wrong presets? dont know. But thats not my expierience with Rapid (or mentioned synths, because im using them all).
4. Why reverb of Rapid has to sound like Valhalla?

#01 best audio engine between the 4 examined synths
#02 Yes, I'd like to apply this eq only when it's necessary
#03 Rapid does sound very well but I think there are inside the dsp code too many optimizations to slight degrade the sound quality. For example within Serum I can select a 1-2-4X oversampling, I can hear the difference. It' like MQA at 192Khz vs 44.1
#04 Valhalla reverbs or delays are incredible, they change drastically your sound. You get the same quality of the Strymon pedals.

The point of my tests: quality research

[D.K Envelope]

funny
i hate valhalla reverbs
it sounds cheap to me
i dont understand the hype maybe the pricepiont

Rapid hast the best sound fx with avenger
dont understan the piont here

[the.new.me]

1. Dunes VA isnt the best one. Its way too subjective in general and mostly based on personal preferences. Its my most used synth by the way.
2. Also that Rapid has a cutoff at 22k doesnt mean its worse, in fact Rapid has very clean sound that is easy to mix especialy this can be heard when adding distortions.
3. I believe you are biased Rapid being muffled or your equiptment translates the sound not very well. Maybe wrong presets? dont know. But thats not my expierience with Rapid (or mentioned synths, because im using them all).
4. Why reverb of Rapid has to sound like Valhalla?

#01 best audio engine between the 4 examined synths
#02 Yes, I'd like to apply this eq only when it's necessary
#03 Rapid does sound very well but I think there are inside the dsp code too many optimizations to slight degrade the sound quality. For example within Serum I can select a 1-2-4X oversampling, I can hear the difference. It' like MQA at 192Khz vs 44.1
#04 Valhalla reverbs or delays are incredible, they change drastically your sound. You get the same quality of the Strymon pedals.

The point of my tests: quality research

I examined all synths and define that Avenger has the best engine

I'm also a sound engineer

Anyways, carry on with your "quality research" I wount intervene with the experts

[Mik_lo]

My research entails me making stuff sound good. If I can make stuff sound good quickly, yay. Tbh I never look at a spectrum analyzer much when I'm sound designing, I just like stuff to sound great.

[dermage]

My research tells me that I had many problems with Avenger and they did not get fixed after months (fairly obvious stuff, like sequencer bugs etc.).

With Rapid I know that the QA is great and there are actually no bugs which I must fear.
Also it's quite quicker to work with than any other soft synth I know of. At least for the stuff I do.

[SoundHunterrr]

In the envelope section, attack goes long way and it only show 0ms and then it jump direct to 1ms (when other synths give 0.1 - 0.2 - 03 etc) Is there a bug or is this demo versio only? Or I do some wrong with Rapid env attack?

RapidAttack0.JPG

[sircuit]

Right click - to see the actual value. You can also copy it. Rapid is a synth that does not accentuates the use & display of numbers - kind of lets you going with your gut. Some people like it, some not. Imho this way gets faster results (the OCD in many people is pushing them/us to either type in values or adjust the knob until the value is round - and that’s not a “rapid” approach [pun intended])