KVR Audio

wetdentist · Post by **wetdentist** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:01 pm

as someone who plays guitar (among other things), i never really used Guitar Rig for guitar, but have always used it as an FX rack for vocals and synths, primarily with presets i've created based on the Traktor's 12 expansion. however, i do not even see Traktor's 12 listed in any version of Komplete, so i am a little skeptical of GR6

LoveEnigma18 · Post by **LoveEnigma18** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:04 pm

vurt wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:22 pm guitar rig 6 is a surprise!

Probably because you missed their recent survey email about Guitar Rig.

But seriously, it looks AMAZING!

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:11 pm

wetdentist wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:01 pm as someone who plays guitar (among other things), i never really used Guitar Rig for guitar, but have always used it as an FX rack for vocals and synths, primarily with presets i've created based on the Traktor's 12 expansion. however, i do not even see Traktor's 12 listed in any version of Komplete, so i am a little skeptical of GR6

Probably because it's included in Guitar Rig 6 now? It used to be a separate product/add-on.

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:13 pm

LoveEnigma18 wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:04 pm
vurt wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:22 pm guitar rig 6 is a surprise!
Probably because you missed their recent survey email about Guitar Rig.

But seriously, it looks AMAZING!

The looks never bothered me so much although a new GUI was definitely called for. But the main issue, at least for guitar, was the amp sounds, which won't have changed. So I'm not super excited personally.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:18 pm

Echoes in the Attic wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:13 pm
LoveEnigma18 wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:04 pm
vurt wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:22 pm guitar rig 6 is a surprise!
Probably because you missed their recent survey email about Guitar Rig.

But seriously, it looks AMAZING!
The looks never bothered me so much although a new GUI was definitely called for. But the main issue, at least for guitar, was the amp sounds, which won't have changed. So I'm not super excited personally.

Apparently the (3) new amps use a completely different tech that sounds much better than the old modelling so it may be worth a demo...

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:26 pm

SLiC wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:18 pm
Echoes in the Attic wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:13 pm
LoveEnigma18 wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:04 pm
vurt wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:22 pm guitar rig 6 is a surprise!
Probably because you missed their recent survey email about Guitar Rig.

But seriously, it looks AMAZING!
The looks never bothered me so much although a new GUI was definitely called for. But the main issue, at least for guitar, was the amp sounds, which won't have changed. So I'm not super excited personally.
Apparently the (3) new amps use a completely different tech that sounds much better than the old modelling so it may be worth a demo...

I'm sure they are much better. And I'll probably grab some version of Komplete eventually during a half off sale (I'm currrently at 11U), so I'll have it eventually. But I'm pretty happy with Amplitube Max and Kuassa right now. Mostly the latter because I find touch screen compatibility hugely beneficial for guitar effects. I hate having to grab the mouse with a pick in my hand. But touching the screen feels super natural. So I like Kuassa for that. Amplitube isn't great with touch (not the instant response of touch friendly gUIs), but usable. But IK's other newer products like the MODO line are nice and multi-touch compatible so I'm hoping the next Amplitube interface will use that same GUI tech. Native Instruments on the hand are gong in the wrong direction. Massive X is unusable on a touch screen. It's even worse that most older legacy products like the original Massive. So if they are using that same platform for the new Guitar Rig, I won't be using it ever.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:29 pm

LoveEnigma18 wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:04 pm
vurt wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:22 pm guitar rig 6 is a surprise!
Probably because you missed their recent survey email about Guitar Rig.

who has time to read emails???

(yeah, i missed it

)

kevvvvv · Post by **kevvvvv** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:34 pm

I'd buy K13 tomorrow if not for the still-tiny interface

nachenko · Post by **nachenko** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:11 pm

Agh, as usual, the most cinematic stuff goes to Ultimate. That was to be expected, of course, but that upgrade is too expensive for me, considering I don't want half of it. It's a pity, I have no interest in most of Komplete Ultimate, although I'm pretty sure Straylight, Thrill and Mysteria are super fun to use. Besides, I'd like to have Super 8, but I am already pretty well geared up on the synth department (DUNE 3, Pigments and ANA 2).

Anyway, it's an impressive collection.

vertibration · Post by **vertibration** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:19 pm

The Guitar Rig video of someone playing a guitar through it was not impressive in any way shape or form. I need to see it played seriously in a more modern style to see if it stands toe to toe with Neural DSP. From what I heard, it could be a great effect rack, but for guitars? I dont know

claudedefaren · Post by **claudedefaren** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:36 pm

DrEntropy · Post by **DrEntropy** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:41 pm

Upgrade from K12 is K13 is $199. For what? The only thing really new is guitar rig pro 6. Am I missing something?

commerce · Post by **commerce** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:43 pm

"My Update" after 3 months from purchasing the original product: 200 euros

claudedefaren · Post by **claudedefaren** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:47 pm

Dencheg · Post by **Dencheg** » Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:51 pm

DrEntropy wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:41 pm Upgrade from K12 is K13 is $199. For what? The only thing really new is guitar rig pro 6. Am I missing something?

Yes, I assume you're missing.
As I made up my mind about recent NI releases, I'll broadcast it again:
Even though Massive X release was kind of controversial, the subsequent products were super cool and inspiring. Just 3 of them - Super 8, Noire and Straylight make Komplete 13 totally worth the money (to me). Actually I presumed that something as cool as Noire would be included in Ultimate, so it's very kind of them to include the best releases in Komplete Standard.

upd - Straylight goes to K13 Ultimate, my bad

Komplete 13, ladies and gents