In 2020 Free Plug-Ins Surpass Paid Ones?
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- KVRer
- 4 posts since 3 Sep, 2020
I mix records every day and I just wanted know everyone's opinions on this topic.
I'm finding myself using free plug-ins more than paid plug-ins.
I find it's remarkable that you can basically mix a commercial record with only free plug-ins and it will sound just as good or more often better than someone using commercial plug-ins.
I used to use the UAD, Waves and PA stuff in the studio, but now I find I can get the same results faster and more efficiently using the following:
TDR: Slick EQ, Nova, Kotelnikov
Airwindows: ButterComp2, BussColors4, Pressure4, EQ, Baxandall, Capacitor2, Console6, Tape6, Distortion, Interstage, VariMu, Logical 4, ADClip7
Voxengo Span
RS-W2395C (I'm not a fan of his paid plug-ins as they seem to model obscure hardware that nobody has heard of but this EQ is great).
Luftikus (I prefer this to MAAG)
PTEq-X (this sounds better than the Waves equivalent)
Logic Vintage Console EQ, Vintage Tube, Vintage API
Logic VCA, FET, Classic VCA and Vintage FET compressors
Logic Adaptive Limiter
(I know Logic is not free, but I only bought Logic to use as a host, arranger and sequencer so any included plug-ins are a bonus to me)
The only paid stuff I regularly use now are the Acustica Neve plug-ins, but that is only because I'm used to the sound of Neve EQs and compressors, I could easily use Logic's Vintage Console instead which is 95% of the way there.
I'm finding myself using free plug-ins more than paid plug-ins.
I find it's remarkable that you can basically mix a commercial record with only free plug-ins and it will sound just as good or more often better than someone using commercial plug-ins.
I used to use the UAD, Waves and PA stuff in the studio, but now I find I can get the same results faster and more efficiently using the following:
TDR: Slick EQ, Nova, Kotelnikov
Airwindows: ButterComp2, BussColors4, Pressure4, EQ, Baxandall, Capacitor2, Console6, Tape6, Distortion, Interstage, VariMu, Logical 4, ADClip7
Voxengo Span
RS-W2395C (I'm not a fan of his paid plug-ins as they seem to model obscure hardware that nobody has heard of but this EQ is great).
Luftikus (I prefer this to MAAG)
PTEq-X (this sounds better than the Waves equivalent)
Logic Vintage Console EQ, Vintage Tube, Vintage API
Logic VCA, FET, Classic VCA and Vintage FET compressors
Logic Adaptive Limiter
(I know Logic is not free, but I only bought Logic to use as a host, arranger and sequencer so any included plug-ins are a bonus to me)
The only paid stuff I regularly use now are the Acustica Neve plug-ins, but that is only because I'm used to the sound of Neve EQs and compressors, I could easily use Logic's Vintage Console instead which is 95% of the way there.
- KVRAF
- 14501 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Planet Earth, Somewhere
To each their own.
That has not been my experience. (Not that they aren't a few good freebies out there.)
Although at the end of the day it is your own craft, creativity and skill as a mixer that will matter the most.
rsp
That has not been my experience. (Not that they aren't a few good freebies out there.)
Although at the end of the day it is your own craft, creativity and skill as a mixer that will matter the most.
rsp
sound sculptist
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- KVRAF
- 2989 posts since 5 Nov, 2014
They maybe don't surpass paid ones, but they are good enough, I was Logic user too and I never felt the need to go bonkers with 3rd party plugins either, even today I have few 3rd party ones just because I don't use Bitwig's stock plugins for the most part, but in the same time I got into all those Windows freebies from VOS and etc.
Logic in this current state is amazing stock plugins vise, advise anyone to restrain from 3rd party plugins until they really get to know what they have and than just fill the void they feel they have.
Airwindows ain't free tho.
Logic in this current state is amazing stock plugins vise, advise anyone to restrain from 3rd party plugins until they really get to know what they have and than just fill the void they feel they have.
Airwindows ain't free tho.
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- KVRAF
- 2065 posts since 14 Sep, 2004 from $HOME
Whether a plugin costs something or not is rather irrelevant to me. The question for me is: does it offer something useful to me and do I like the workflow/UI. Especially the last point is more and more important nowadays as pretty much any current plugin sounds reasonably good and won’t kill my mixes (that’s still my responsibility...)
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- KVRAF
- 1631 posts since 10 Oct, 2018
Free list sounds very familiar, hehe I only miss Limiter №6 and OilRiver.
Did not know Airwindows. Thank you for the suggestion. But when it comes to brass, I won't use freebees.
Did not know Airwindows. Thank you for the suggestion. But when it comes to brass, I won't use freebees.
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- KVRAF
- 2720 posts since 2 Jul, 2010
Well, I use the paid TDR stuff over the freebies so can't agree with the letter of this question. Prefer the Waves to PTEq-X but not much in it and a matter of taste.
But yes, the free TDR stuff is excellent and better than many paid plugins. SPAN is on my monitoring chain, Luftikus is on my A-team.
Been wondering about the SPAN upgrade...
But yes, the free TDR stuff is excellent and better than many paid plugins. SPAN is on my monitoring chain, Luftikus is on my A-team.
Been wondering about the SPAN upgrade...
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- KVRian
- 692 posts since 8 Jan, 2017
Besides the ones in the first post:
The three Klanghelm free plugins, Spaceship Delay, OrilRiver, Valhalla Supermassive and FreqEcho, Convology XT, both versions of Dragonfly Reverb, Venn Audio FreeClip, Loudmax, CHOWDSP Analog Tape Model (AKA Chow Tape), Caelum Audio Tape Cassette 2, Voxengo TubeAmp (it's actually a saturation plugin, not an amp sim), Klevgrand FreeAmp, Baby Audio Magic Switch, Metric Halo Thump, and Waves Factory SK10 and SnareBuzz, and Airwindows NotJustAnotherDither and PurestGain.
There's also the NaLex, Ignite Amp, Mercuriall, TSE and Vadim Taranov free amps for guitars and bass.
The three Klanghelm free plugins, Spaceship Delay, OrilRiver, Valhalla Supermassive and FreqEcho, Convology XT, both versions of Dragonfly Reverb, Venn Audio FreeClip, Loudmax, CHOWDSP Analog Tape Model (AKA Chow Tape), Caelum Audio Tape Cassette 2, Voxengo TubeAmp (it's actually a saturation plugin, not an amp sim), Klevgrand FreeAmp, Baby Audio Magic Switch, Metric Halo Thump, and Waves Factory SK10 and SnareBuzz, and Airwindows NotJustAnotherDither and PurestGain.
There's also the NaLex, Ignite Amp, Mercuriall, TSE and Vadim Taranov free amps for guitars and bass.
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- KVRAF
- 2648 posts since 20 Jun, 2012
Don't think this is true.
Often though the difference between paid and free plugins has been none-existent in past couple of years.
Often though the difference between paid and free plugins has been none-existent in past couple of years.
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- KVRAF
- 8089 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
I don't count plugins that came with a DAW as "free," but as a feature of the DAW.
Given that, at this point there are only 4 free plugins I use on the regular (Valhalla Supermassive, Voxengo SPAN and Correlometer, and Youlean Loudness Meter).
There are a couple of others I use occasionally just for variety but could easily go without, and a few others that get rare use.
Everything else is paid for, albeit mostly on the cheaper side.
Given that, at this point there are only 4 free plugins I use on the regular (Valhalla Supermassive, Voxengo SPAN and Correlometer, and Youlean Loudness Meter).
There are a couple of others I use occasionally just for variety but could easily go without, and a few others that get rare use.
Everything else is paid for, albeit mostly on the cheaper side.
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- KVRAF
- 1631 posts since 10 Oct, 2018
Anyway the Airwindows plug are free FYI
- KVRian
- 736 posts since 19 Sep, 2007 from Germany
I also make music every day since many years and I often tried free plugins and a few are good, but meanwhile I mostly use paid ones, especially synths. The only free synth I'm still using is Surge, but it's now free, I bought it for 149 Euro many years ago. The same with Sonar, I bought Sonar 8 for 400 Euro and now it's free. I also use some free MIDI plugins. For FX, mix and mastering I use the VSTs from my Main DAW and Pro-L2. But yes, nobody need plugins from Waves!mixedbyali wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:21 pm I mix records every day and I just wanted know everyone's opinions on this topic.
I'm finding myself using free plug-ins more than paid plug-ins.
I find it's remarkable that you can basically mix a commercial record with only free plug-ins and it will sound just as good or more often better than someone using commercial plug-ins.
I used to use the UAD, Waves and PA stuff in the studio, but now I find I can get the same results faster and more efficiently using the following:
TDR: Slick EQ, Nova, Kotelnikov
Airwindows: ButterComp2, BussColors4, Pressure4, EQ, Baxandall, Capacitor2, Console6, Tape6, Distortion, Interstage, VariMu, Logical 4, ADClip7
Voxengo Span
RS-W2395C (I'm not a fan of his paid plug-ins as they seem to model obscure hardware that nobody has heard of but this EQ is great).
Luftikus (I prefer this to MAAG)
PTEq-X (this sounds better than the Waves equivalent)
Logic Vintage Console EQ, Vintage Tube, Vintage API
Logic VCA, FET, Classic VCA and Vintage FET compressors
Logic Adaptive Limiter
(I know Logic is not free, but I only bought Logic to use as a host, arranger and sequencer so any included plug-ins are a bonus to me)
The only paid stuff I regularly use now are the Acustica Neve plug-ins, but that is only because I'm used to the sound of Neve EQs and compressors, I could easily use Logic's Vintage Console instead which is 95% of the way there.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111343 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
dunno if id go 100% with the op, but i would say that if you were in a position financially where you couldnt afford much beyond the computer...
there is so much great free stuff available, that you need not feel left behind.
there is so much that can be achieved for free, or even very inexpensive, good times for all
there is so much great free stuff available, that you need not feel left behind.
there is so much that can be achieved for free, or even very inexpensive, good times for all
- KVRAF
- 1685 posts since 3 Aug, 2017 from San Diego, CA
What's to "miss" about Limiter 6? It's still out there for download iirc.excuse me please wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:52 pm Free list sounds very familiar, hehe I only miss Limiter №6 and OilRiver.
Did not know Airwindows. Thank you for the suggestion. But when it comes to brass, I won't use freebees.
- KVRAF
- 19908 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
There are actually two questions here.
With sufficient talent and skill can you mix commercial quality songs with freeware ? Yes
On the whole is freeware superior to paid plugins ? Generally not but of course there are some free plugins that are better than some paid plugins....
With sufficient talent and skill can you mix commercial quality songs with freeware ? Yes
On the whole is freeware superior to paid plugins ? Generally not but of course there are some free plugins that are better than some paid plugins....
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
