Scarlett 2i2 2nd Gen and 250 Ohm?

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Novaliz
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166 posts since 24 Sep, 2004

Post Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:54 pm

I need new headphones and want to buy the beyerdynamic DT-770 Pro. There is a 80 and 250 Ohm model. I have read that more Ohm sounds better but it needs more power. I have a Scarlett 2i2 2nd Gen and I found on their support page that they recommend up to 200 Ohm. So should I buy the 80 Ohm or the 250 Ohm headphones? I am no expert regarding Ohm and I have never thought about it. Maybe I can get an expert answer on this :)

vitocorleone123
KVRian
760 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW

Post Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:36 pm

You can, but I’d just recommend headphones with less resistance- you probably won’t notice a difference, and not having enough power can be annoying when tracking and mixing. Something around 100ohms, perhaps.

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Novaliz
KVRist
166 posts since 24 Sep, 2004

Post Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:55 am

Ok, thank you! I will buy the 80 Ohm Version then.

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Kameo
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19 posts since 21 Aug, 2020

Post Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:37 am

If you want a higher ohm headphone in the future for any reason though, getting an amp like this is an option to power more demanding headphones.

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l.enriquelope
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9 posts since 30 Jun, 2020

Post Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:13 am

Got the Beyerdynamics DT900 250ohm with Scarlett 2i2 3rd gen and there's a noticeable lack of power (or volume?). Need to crank the volume to be able to get them to what would be considered "loud".

leeleema
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335 posts since 29 Jun, 2020

Post Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:13 pm

l.enriquelope wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:13 am
Got the Beyerdynamics DT900 250ohm with Scarlett 2i2 3rd gen and there's a noticeable lack of power (or volume?). Need to crank the volume to be able to get them to what would be considered "loud".
Sounds like too many ohms - read posts above

vitocorleone123
KVRian
760 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW

Post Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:46 pm

Scarlett 2nd gen: there was a difference between USB powered and AC powered, in that AC powered units had a higher headphone output

Focusrite, in their wisdom, cleaned up the audio output in gen3, but lowered the output. I wouldn't use 250ohm cans with a 3rd gen without a separate amp. That's one of the secondary reasons I upgraded to a Clarett 4pre (mostly for the additional I/O sans hardware mixer).

fedexnman
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2737 posts since 4 Jan, 2005

Post Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:56 pm

I had those Beyers 770 the 80 ohmz and found out they just were not loud enough with my audio interface . I didn't have the Focusrite but I can't imagine the headphone amps having much power on any usb device . Anyhow Inalos didn't care for the 770 so I bought the Sennheiser 280 hd reissued. So used of them already , my old pair was cracked and worn out 15 years old ... The 770 just seemed too 3d in the bass like it was just to artificial to me .

polac
KVRist
95 posts since 8 Mar, 2003

Post Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:45 am

I have a NI Komplete Audio audiointerface and a a DT770 250ohm headphone and the audio output is extremely silent here, would recommend the 80ohm. I'm using my headpone with an old Samson mixer so no problem for me.

-Yaz-
KVRist
47 posts since 8 Feb, 2008

Post Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:20 am

I've just bought a USB-C Scarlet 212 Gen 3 this week and it powers my 250 ohm DT770s just fine. It's perfectly loud (at least easily loud enough to mix with) on about 33% of the headphone output. It's running via USB-C though via a USB-C to USB-C cable from my MBP. Maybe there's a difference as it can get more power from the USB-C port?

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KVRian
694 posts since 8 May, 2018 from Sweden

Post Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:18 pm

Higher impedance headphones do not use more power (Watts). That's a factor of the sensitivity (dB SPL/mW) of the headphones, not their impedance. High impedance headphones require a higher voltage (and higher voltage swing), but actually a lower current than low impedance headphones. (It just annoys me when units of measurement get mixed up. You don't weigh 150 centimetres, a workday is not 8 kg, and a light-year is a measurement of distance, not time).

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