Have Modern VST Instruments Replaced Your Hardware Synths ?
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
Practically everything I'm interested in as far as synthesis is strictly from software, except for NI Monark which largely is a Minimoog. I've owned two hardware synths in my life, a DX7 I bought in '03 at a pawn shop and a Roland rack XV type. I used a DX7 extensively in the mid to late 80s and two Minimoogs, one for a significant period of time, which I didn't actually own but I was the go-to programmer of the group per the DX7 and the owner of MM1 was not using it. I'd rather use NI Monark than have something to dust and wonder if it's going to die like the last Minimoog I used. In '03 I also bought Absynth 2, so... Ultimately the DX7 went back to a pawn shop. So I don't really miss that paradigm, there are other m.o.s, and yes, software obviates the Minimoog easily.
- addled muppet weed
- 111304 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
it did if you purchased the seperate "polaroid module"e-crooner wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:14 pm The Minimoog didn't even have a patch memory, right? Gee, I can't even imagine using such a device...
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- KVRAF
- 5851 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki
Analog hardware, software for digital. Computers allow for interfaces that would be impossible or impractical to implement in hardware, and software has proven to be incapable of bridging the gap between code and actual electronic components.
Hybrid setup is the best of both worlds.
Hybrid setup is the best of both worlds.
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- KVRAF
- 35687 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Couldn't imagine that either, TBH. No patch memory, no total recall. Software is spoiling.e-crooner wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:14 pm The Minimoog didn't even have a patch memory, right? Gee, I can't even imagine using such a device...
- addled muppet weed
- 111304 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
- Banned
- 3564 posts since 22 Aug, 2019
Didn't they use patch sheets for such synths? Must have sucked, especially live
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- KVRAF
- 35687 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
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- KVRAF
- 7540 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area
More silliness and biased assumptions. Even back when all I had was an Emax, a DW-6000, and an HR-16, I was still sequencing them from a Mac running Vision. It’s been hardware and software, hand in hand, all along. I use both hardware and software. It’s all great, and I love it equally. Music, for me, is a form of play, and I love to experiment with new musical toys full of novelty and the potential to delight. I do notice that I’ve been mostly using hardware for the past few years, but software is still fun and useful too.
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.
- KVRian
- 1418 posts since 14 Apr, 2016 from Germany
Agree..deastman wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:33 pm More silliness and biased assumptions. Even back when all I had was an Emax, a DW-6000, and an HR-16, I was still sequencing them from a Mac running Vision. It’s been hardware and software, hand in hand, all along. I use both hardware and software. It’s all great, and I love it equally. Music, for me, is a form of play, and I love to experiment with new musical toys full of novelty and the potential to delight. I do notice that I’ve been mostly using hardware for the past few years, but software is still fun and useful too.
Who knows where they put those fu**in' midi-cables in?!..

Intel® Core™ i9-9900K•Cubase 11•Presonus Eris E8 XT•Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 & Octopre•NI Kontrol S61 MK2•Steinberg CC121•Synthesizers: Arturia Casio Korg Roland Yamaha
- KVRAF
- 8078 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
I find it a bit sad, and revealing, that some people here are assuming if two musicians own the same set of gear they will sound the same.
A lot of stuff goes into my gear choices, including opportunity and whimsy and sometimes alcohol, but at no point do I worry about what other people are using just so I can avoid it.
A lot of stuff goes into my gear choices, including opportunity and whimsy and sometimes alcohol, but at no point do I worry about what other people are using just so I can avoid it.
- addled muppet weed
- 111304 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
indeed, look at mutable instruments, many people own one or more of those modules, but the diversity of output ,you might not realise it if you didnt know.foosnark wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:58 pm I find it a bit sad, and revealing, that some people here are assuming if two musicians own the same set of gear they will sound the same.
A lot of stuff goes into my gear choices, including opportunity and whimsy and sometimes alcohol, but at no point do I worry about what other people are using just so I can avoid it.
and they even have quite a distinct sonic footprint. (the ones with out put obvs)
- KVRian
- 736 posts since 19 Sep, 2007 from Germany
No, there's no reason still buy Roland hardware (new and vintage) AND software, I'm working complete "Roland free" since a very long time ...Dencheg wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:56 pmThere is a reason. The control surface of Roland System-8 is simply the best (for many). And the synth itself is the best (at least for me), despite being VA. Well, I shouldn’t say “despite”, cause good VA in good hands (relying not only on presets) sounds not less uniquely then A or a unique wavetable engineclipnotic wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:59 am There is no reason and no advantage still buying and using hardware and of course it's possible to use a PC / Mac on stage and more and more live musicians are doing this, except those, which are still thinking they're "elite", because they can create sounds like decades before or cover musicians, which still living in the past and want still sound like in the 80s / 90s.
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(one of the new online projects)
(one of the new online projects)
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- KVRAF
- 9147 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
I don't find any right rules! Sometimes software is better than hardware, and sometimes hardware is better (in everything including the sound!). It also depends on so many things! Synth quality, the kind of music, ease of use, presets quality, etc.
It is also doesn't matter if this hardware is a VA or a digital workstation/synth. Some digital synths are really great and super inspiring!
Everyone is talking about him/herself of course and we are not the same and don't have the same taste or music background, then we find it so odd that we differ in our opinions! Maybe we just like to repeat ourselves
It is also doesn't matter if this hardware is a VA or a digital workstation/synth. Some digital synths are really great and super inspiring!
Everyone is talking about him/herself of course and we are not the same and don't have the same taste or music background, then we find it so odd that we differ in our opinions! Maybe we just like to repeat ourselves
Using: Cubase Pro 15, Reason 13, Tascam US-4x4HR, MODX6, DM12D, LaunchKey 49, Yamaha guitar(Pacifica 612v) and bass (BB234) and some virtual instruments and synths.
