Arturia 'poly' Brute now launched.
- KVRAF
- 4081 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO
This has so many much more features than the prologue, the Sommit is more comparable.
I personally like my analog full of character, quirky filters and different architecture, like erebus or the brute line, I am more bored with vanilla analogs than while sounding great doesn't sound different. The polybrute seems full of character, the summit sounds superb but it sounds like many other synths that also sound superb.
Also, after playing with the matrixbrute many times I know that user interface is one of the best ever made, it is just so much fun to tweak and modulate stuff, and add effects. It is really a joy to use.
THe prologue is too much compromise in sound and features to get a poly analog at a great price.
I personally like my analog full of character, quirky filters and different architecture, like erebus or the brute line, I am more bored with vanilla analogs than while sounding great doesn't sound different. The polybrute seems full of character, the summit sounds superb but it sounds like many other synths that also sound superb.
Also, after playing with the matrixbrute many times I know that user interface is one of the best ever made, it is just so much fun to tweak and modulate stuff, and add effects. It is really a joy to use.
THe prologue is too much compromise in sound and features to get a poly analog at a great price.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12106 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
The Prologue has a lot of voices for the money and an in interesting digital oscillator (and decent digital FX), but it has very limited architecture- just 1 LFO per voice, no aftertouch etc...I played one once in a music store and it wasn't for me.
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- KVRAF
- 18470 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
I’m buying two of these. One for the studio, and one for snuggling with in bed at night
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12106 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Attractive instruments get more attention...its a good thing.
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- 111306 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
i just heard your wife say "he can snuggle the one in the studio, on the couch"zerocrossing wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:20 pm I’m buying two of these. One for the studio, and one for snuggling with in bed at night
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- KVRAF
- 13256 posts since 30 Apr, 2019
The only real downside I can see is according to Nick Batt’s mini review it weighs about 20 kilos and is quite physically deep e.g. if I bought one I’d have to completely rearrange my music workspace.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12106 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
But it has sexy wooden legs so that more than makes up for it...WatchTheGuitar wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:17 pm The only real downside I can see is according to Nick Batt’s mini review it weighs about 20 kilos and is quite physically deep e.g. if I bought one I’d have to completely rearrange my music workspace.
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- KVRian
- 1099 posts since 9 Aug, 2018
I’ve noticed that, quite often anyway, those dissing analog polysynths before they’re even released - well, okay, and after that point
- either simply can’t afford such a thing (i.e., jealousy), or already spent a bunch on another polysynth, and kinda wish they hadn’t (i.e., buyer’s remorse).
Both will swear that other options are clearly superior, speaking as they are from an emotional perspective.
Hm, anyway. :p Seems deece.
Both will swear that other options are clearly superior, speaking as they are from an emotional perspective.
Hm, anyway. :p Seems deece.
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
vurt wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:23 pmi just heard your wife say "he can snuggle the one in the studio, on the couch"zerocrossing wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:20 pm I’m buying two of these. One for the studio, and one for snuggling with in bed at night![]()
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- KVRAF
- 13256 posts since 30 Apr, 2019
Could be a hard fought campaign to see who comes out on top with both sides entrenched in their views.
- KVRAF
- 18470 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
I agree with all that, though I’ll mention that with the introduction of user wavetables, the Peak/Summit does have the capability of going a bit more rogue. I actually love the sound of the Prologue, but you’re right. They skimped on features in exchange for being more “immediate” to use. I think a good UI can make a complex synth seem very immediate and intuitive. For instance, I’m going back and forth on what synth I should sell to fit the PolyBrute in my studio and the two that make the most sense are the Dominion 1 and the Pro 2. I was spending time with both of them, to see what my gut was telling me, and while the Pro 2 makes the most sense, because I have a Prophet 12 as well, the Dominion 1, although a lot less complex, is not nearly as fun to program. I think there’s a way to add depth and still make a synth fun to use, but Korg punted on that one.rod_zero wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:45 pm This has so many much more features than the prologue, the Sommit is more comparable.
I personally like my analog full of character, quirky filters and different architecture, like erebus or the brute line, I am more bored with vanilla analogs than while sounding great doesn't sound different. The polybrute seems full of character, the summit sounds superb but it sounds like many other synths that also sound superb.
Also, after playing with the matrixbrute many times I know that user interface is one of the best ever made, it is just so much fun to tweak and modulate stuff, and add effects. It is really a joy to use.
THe prologue is too much compromise in sound and features to get a poly analog at a great price.
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- KVRAF
- 7105 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
This guy is exploring quite a bit and show a lot of capabilities
and he also gets to use the core sound a lot, not to camouflage with effects all the time.
And this in manual strengthen my bets I will get one
"Snapshots allow you to view the stored presets while editing the current preset. This is useful
in two ways:
• To compare the edited state of the preset to the unedited (stored) version, or to
any other preset
• To preview another preset location before overwriting it with an edited preset."
They get the need to just preview destination before overwriting, not separate spread sheet needed to know which locations you might feel like overwriting - 768 locations so good thinking. Completely absent in all Roland I tried so far.
Having price tag up at my most expensive guitar - you need to collect justification spending that amount of money. Hard to find anything else that speak against it.
and he also gets to use the core sound a lot, not to camouflage with effects all the time.
And this in manual strengthen my bets I will get one
"Snapshots allow you to view the stored presets while editing the current preset. This is useful
in two ways:
• To compare the edited state of the preset to the unedited (stored) version, or to
any other preset
• To preview another preset location before overwriting it with an edited preset."
They get the need to just preview destination before overwriting, not separate spread sheet needed to know which locations you might feel like overwriting - 768 locations so good thinking. Completely absent in all Roland I tried so far.
Having price tag up at my most expensive guitar - you need to collect justification spending that amount of money. Hard to find anything else that speak against it.
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
I wonder how broad the sonic palette of the polybrute is, and how much of the agressive tone of the Matrixbrute has been retained.DJ Warmonger wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:21 pm The mono version is certainly awesome, but ultimately may not be an universal synth for everything. This one might!
(It always strikes me how a poly version of a synth is always a lot softer than the mono version. You would think it mainly has more voices and could do both agressive mono and soft pads, but no).
The Polybrute seems to have still a lot of bottom end, but how good does it do basses/stuff the matrixbrute can do.