KVR Audio

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:08 pm

AnX wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:48 am software is certainly very convenient

it certainly saves on dusting

machinesworking · Post by **machinesworking** » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:01 pm

BONES wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:14 am That's not what I hear in it. with the "Filter & Resonance" comparison I think the OB-6's oscillators have a grittier sound than the OB-Xa. The OB-Xa is definitely louder, too. But that filter sweep can be done convincingly on any half-decent VSTi. I'd suggest, for example, that the PolySix VSTi does it much better than either of these examples with no effort at all. And when it comes to the really dirty sounds, the sync and unison examples, I think the OB-6 sounds dirtier there, too Sure, it lacks the spread of the OB-Xa in unison but that's got to be a deliberate choice they made with the OB-6.

OK, yeah, we're not hearing the same thing at all. The OBXa is very obviously a much much thicker more complex sound with the filter sweep. This is 100% one of those cases when descriptive terms like "thin" can be used. The Ob6 is thin thin thin in comparison.

Not at all saying that OB-06 is a worse synth, I agree the unison sounds great, but the filter sweep is all OBXa. I'm sure it's from instability, but go back and listen, the undertones on the OBXa are almost a song in itself. It's sounds like that that make me understand why people get hooked on "analog", even though it's severely limited compared to digital.

You're also screwing up my point earlier in this thread, for what I do and 99% of the time, I'm reaching for soft synths. There just isn't anything compared to Falcon or Pigments in the hardware world, and Diva covers 99% of the analog for me.

Going back to my point though, I think the fact that you can go into any soft synth I know of and dial up a setting with digital noise, artifacts, etc. makes people mistakenly think that analog is "better", when really it's the limitations of analog that prevent it from hitting clashing frequencies that are unpleasant to people. Plus a lot of bias based on hardware lust. Why anyone bothers with digital hardware I'll never figure out? <--- answering this for myself anyway, the E6400 I used to own had a bandpass filter that made some crazy sounds at certain setting I've never been able to replicate in anything else, so there's a reason..

e-crooner · Post by **e-crooner** » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:18 pm

When I hear the sounds in that video, I think to myself that I don't really want analog sound to begin with

That unison sound for instance, what am I supposed to do with such an aggressive sound in a song?!

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:21 pm

has anyones mind been changed or slightly influenced by anything anyone has posted?

no. course not.

also, i admit nothing!!!!

e-crooner · Post by **e-crooner** » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:28 pm

vurt wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:21 pm has anyones mind been changed or slightly influenced by anything anyone has posted?

no. course not.

also, i admit nothing!!!!

Well, we are just bored, waiting for our Covid-19 death...

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:31 pm

e-crooner wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:28 pm
vurt wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:21 pm has anyones mind been changed or slightly influenced by anything anyone has posted?

no. course not.

also, i admit nothing!!!!
Well, we are just bored, waiting for our Covid-19 death...

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:37 pm

e-crooner wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:28 pm Well, we are just bored, waiting for our Covid-19 death...

speak for yourself....

THE INTRANCER · Post by **THE INTRANCER** » Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:12 pm

As the OP of this thread, I just wanted to pop in and say that for the benefit of those who want to contribute their views and experiences, please keep discussion related to the opening topic and that of related posts others have made regarding it. People come to read forums as a form of distraction, escapism, learning and enjoyment..

Thanks.

Karma_tba · Post by **Karma_tba** » Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:16 pm

AnX wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:37 pm
e-crooner wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:28 pm Well, we are just bored, waiting for our Covid-19 death...
speak for yourself....

I know that it's probably just morbid humor, but if you are waiting it won't come. 2006 I was given 18 months to live(Cancer). 3 years later(2009) I was still here. Still I was ready to die. 2020 Covid-19, 68 years old, pre-existing conditions, I thought I'm outa here for sure. Nearly 2021 vaccine coming and I'm still here. Time to just live bored or not.

e-crooner · Post by **e-crooner** » Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:23 pm

Karma_tba wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:16 pm
AnX wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:37 pm
e-crooner wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:28 pm Well, we are just bored, waiting for our Covid-19 death...
speak for yourself....
I know that it's probably just morbid humor, but if you are waiting it won't come. 2006 I was given 18 months to live(Cancer). 3 years later(2009) I was still here. Still I was ready to die. 2020 Covid-19, 68 years old, pre-existing conditions, I thought I'm outa here for sure. Nearly 2021 vaccine coming and I'm still here. Time to just live bored or not.

Good so see you are still here

I think they said a few weeks ago that someone had already survived the pandemic a century ago and now Covid-19 as well

Karma_tba · Post by **Karma_tba** » Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:27 pm

e-crooner wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:23 pm
Karma_tba wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:16 pm
AnX wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:37 pm
e-crooner wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:28 pm Well, we are just bored, waiting for our Covid-19 death...
speak for yourself....
I know that it's probably just morbid humor, but if you are waiting it won't come. 2006 I was given 18 months to live(Cancer). 3 years later(2009) I was still here. Still I was ready to die. 2020 Covid-19, 68 years old, pre-existing conditions, I thought I'm outa here for sure. Nearly 2021 vaccine coming and I'm still here. Time to just live bored or not.
Good so see you are still here

I think they said a few weeks ago that someone had already survived the pandemic a century ago and now Covid-19 as well

Now that's a survivor!!

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:29 pm

indeed! two world wars in there too

e-crooner · Post by **e-crooner** » Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:32 pm

Karma_tba wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:27 pm
e-crooner wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:23 pm
Karma_tba wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:16 pm
AnX wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:37 pm
e-crooner wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:28 pm Well, we are just bored, waiting for our Covid-19 death...
speak for yourself....
I know that it's probably just morbid humor, but if you are waiting it won't come. 2006 I was given 18 months to live(Cancer). 3 years later(2009) I was still here. Still I was ready to die. 2020 Covid-19, 68 years old, pre-existing conditions, I thought I'm outa here for sure. Nearly 2021 vaccine coming and I'm still here. Time to just live bored or not.
Good so see you are still here

I think they said a few weeks ago that someone had already survived the pandemic a century ago and now Covid-19 as well
Now that's a survivor!!

And two cancers, too

https://www.wbrz.com/news/102-year-old- ... ronavirus/

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:32 pm

immortal!

Karma_tba · Post by **Karma_tba** » Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:34 pm

e-crooner wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:18 pm When I hear the sounds in that video, I think to myself that I don't really want analog sound to begin with That unison sound for instance, what am I supposed to do with such an aggressive sound in a song?!

+1 that's how I feel....I have little use for those sounds in my songs.

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