cheapest best headphone for mixing?

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Audio Technica m-40x

NOT m-50x.

40's have a much flatter response curve (no "disco smile") and are thus much better suited for producing / mixing, whereas the 50's are more pleasurable for just listening (although this is obviously subjective). I waa shocked how well the 40's stood compared to DT990 Pro and I actually liked them more for analytical low-end listening.
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Passing Bye wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm
vercitti wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:29 am https://ibb.co/p3CyMS4
are you kidding me guys?
+DB at the high treble boosted ?
how can you work with something like this ?
With our ears, look at SparkySpark's post 4 post's up, let that sink in for a moment, than stop looking at graphs and use your ears, I mean you can always go mad with Morphit, Sonarworks and all that, but I don't see the purpose, just get to know and appreciate them for what they bring on the table.
Agreed, there's too much emphasis on graphs these days. Learn the cans, use references :)

Also there's a degree of personal preference... My HD650s are supposedly flatter than most at the top end, but I usually find myself reaching for others these days.

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Exactly, there's other sources that just magnify into problematic areas, it's all good stuff, flip to something else, have instant fresh ears, discover something off doing so, flip back, instant fresh ears too.

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Passing Bye wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm look at SparkySpark's post 4 post's up, let that sink in for a moment
I'll print this on a t-shirt and wear it until it falls to pieces. :D

It'll work smashingly in my next relationship. :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm Passing Bye wrote:
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!

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Hahahahahahhahaha

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Should I edit the spectrum when I master a track, taking down what the headphones boosted in the photo? Or what
You don't get the proper sound, how do you mix with your ears which listening to another sound, 6db difference in high treble?

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vercitti wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:09 pm Should I edit the spectrum when I master a track, taking down what the headphones boosted in the photo? Or what
You don't get the proper sound, how do you mix with your ears which listening to another sound, 6db difference in high treble?
What's the "proper" sound anyways, good mixes aren't flat as pancake, actually they aren't even "perfectly" balanced, if you know well enough how much treble is enough on that cans, by actually listening other mastered tracks on them, than it's non issue, spend some time referencing commercial releases.

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Passing Bye wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:26 pm
vercitti wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:09 pm Should I edit the spectrum when I master a track, taking down what the headphones boosted in the photo? Or what
You don't get the proper sound, how do you mix with your ears which listening to another sound, 6db difference in high treble?
What's the "proper" sound anyways, good mixes aren't flat as pancake, actually they aren't even "perfectly" balanced, if you know well enough how much treble is enough on that cans, by actually listening other mastered tracks on them, than it's non issue, spend some time referencing commercial releases.
thanks bro , I got the idea,reference track will help, you are right

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Sony MDR-V6 are pretty good and cheap (around £80) and I bought a couple of pairs (one for backup) about 5-10 years ago.
They're getting harder to find now though, so maybe Sony are phasing them out of production?

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IMHO any pair will do as long as you work a lot with them and learn to adjust your mixing by knowing where they lack and shine. Listen to reference tracks while mixing to see how similar style of music sounds on your headphones compared to your song. If you work a lot, at some point you start to feel like you really need to upgrade becuase you want a better understanding of the stereo field or the like, but that's likely further down the road. Learning to listen and mix with the tools you have is gold.

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i have k702. pretty cheap. It is really good but I don't recommend it if the surroundings are noisy because it is open type.

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Superlux HD681 Evo - extremely good for around £30.

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I'm gonna have to disagree with some of the posts above regarding learning the sound of your headphones, working with a non-flat response and not applying correction EQ.

I've used the same headphones for recording and music listening for the past 22 years. Obviously, after that long, I knew their sound intimately.

I recently built and applied a correction EQ layer for my monitor speakers and headphones. The improvement was not subtle. My monitoring was quite literally transformed.

I'd been planning for some time to upgrade my monitoring at the end of this year, and spend big - Genelec 8331 + Audeze LCD-X - that's £5,000 worth of gear! Those plans have now been dropped indefinitely - as I can no longer justify the smaller benefits against the cost - and some of that budget is now being diverted into room treatment and amplification to get more out of what I already have.

The point of flat monitoring, to me, is to make better mixing decisions faster. The more your monitoring deviates from flat response, the more potential problems are masked, and the more your brain has to work to compensate for the imbalance to detect those problems - even if you're very familiar with the equipment. That leads to fatigue, less accurate decisions, and more time wasted - all of which I have less of now I've set up the correction.

I'd say it's well worth trying - and if you find the right tools to do it, it won't necessarily even cost anything.

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Worth checking out for headphones mixing
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+1 for Superlux. I have the HD681 evo and the HD-330. Both sound very good for the price.

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