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david.beholder wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:29 pm
I care as proud owner of SEM I yet to hear proper emulation of VCO and VCF. The one in Diva is close but gain is different.
Post sound examples, please.

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And as you're at it, do some comparisons with Oberhausen as well. ;)

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AnX wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:20 am
dellboy wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:33 am
I see you describe your music as "post punk industrial". Really ?

Its not like any mainstream punk that I recall.
thats because it's not punk, it's post punk.... there was a clue there....
Nah, I am old enough to have lived through all that stuff and it aint "post punk".

His single "Underground" is a bit "Bladerunner" - "Mad Max" dystopian.

I would call it "electro distopian"

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pbr985 wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:28 am Maybe. It’s now got the stamp of Buurens and Garrexes and Cheese. And overpriced DJs and Sylenth1.

Roland Klinkenberg used to be cool though so respect there. He should have received the credits instead of the holland cheese. 👍 But money money money.

I think the filter of Super 8 sounds better than any of the Diva filter’s to back to topic. Feel free to hate me.
Why would someone hate you if you state your opinion based on your own perception? :) Only narrow-minded jerks would hate you for that (although I wouldn't rule out some of u-he's extreme fanbois with that...).

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dellboy wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 11:31 am
AnX wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:20 am
dellboy wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:33 am
I see you describe your music as "post punk industrial". Really ?

Its not like any mainstream punk that I recall.
thats because it's not punk, it's post punk.... there was a clue there....
Nah, I am old enough to have lived through all that stuff and it aint "post punk".

His single "Underground" is a bit "Bladerunner" - "Mad Max" dystopian.

I would call it "electro distopian"
I'd call it Industrial Synthwave. Although I never was good with such labels.

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dellboy wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 11:31 am
AnX wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:20 am
dellboy wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:33 am
I see you describe your music as "post punk industrial". Really ?

Its not like any mainstream punk that I recall.
thats because it's not punk, it's post punk.... there was a clue there....
Nah, I am old enough to have lived through all that stuff and it aint "post punk".
well its not pre punk, so i guess he is correct (and I'm plenty old enough too)

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AnX wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:20 pm
well its not pre punk, so i guess he is correct (and I'm plenty old enough too)
In that case you will remember what punk morphed into.

Wikipedia includes "Talking Heads" "The Cure" and many other well liked bands as late "post punk", and I like all that stuff so what Bones does is something else.

Maybe his antipodean roots means some thing else was happening down below contemporaneous with stuff above.

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I think the genre you're looking for is called AWM. :lol:

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Lol I thought the genre conversation was about Wilder solo stuff, how I see it's about bones. My goodness!
I lost my heart in Cap de Creus

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dellboy wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:49 pm
AnX wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:20 pm
well its not pre punk, so i guess he is correct (and I'm plenty old enough too)
In that case you will remember what punk morphed into.

Wikipedia includes "Talking Heads" "The Cure" and many other well liked bands as late "post punk", and I like all that stuff so what Bones does is something else.

Maybe his antipodean roots means some thing else was happening down below contemporaneous with stuff above.
yup, but the goth end of post punk, got mixed in with industrial electro, as oppose to industrial.
which then became stuff like kmfdm/nitzer ebb.
post punk industrial, is further along than post punk.
:ud:

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vurt wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:30 pm

yup, but the goth end of post punk, got mixed in with industrial electro, as oppose to industrial.
which then became stuff like kmfdm/nitzer ebb.
post punk industrial, is further along than post punk.
Punk meets Goth meets Zombies in a derelict factory in the rust belt.

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dellboy wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:41 pm
vurt wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:30 pm

yup, but the goth end of post punk, got mixed in with industrial electro, as oppose to industrial.
which then became stuff like kmfdm/nitzer ebb.
post punk industrial, is further along than post punk.
Punk meets Goth meets Zombies in a derelict factory in the rust belt.
pretty much. but you forgot "post nuclear conflict" ;)

dystopian electro would work, but is that a thing?
:ud:

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pbr985 wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:04 amPlease listen to ambient works.
First of all, I don't think Come to Daddy qualifies as ambient and it's the only Aphex Twin song I and most of the universe knows. Secondly, why would I want to listen to a genre that contains none of the things that interest me when it comes to music? No vocals, no energy, no attitude, no power... nothing.
AFX might be considered dance sometimes but even that is the top of the top. But each to their own. I guess you are American though so different taste/culture.
If I was American I'd say "I guess", not "I suppose", which makes me wonder, are you American?
dellboy wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:33 amHmm - Its not just about the sound a thing makes, The Juno was my first synth and I was younger, and the world was a completely different place than today.
I think that is probably true of all of us and, in your case, it doesn't have anything to do with the Juno you bought. I, for example, was an Army officer when I bought my first synth, an SH1000, which was (and remains) a complete pile of shit. That I owned it during the best years of my life does not imbue it with any special powers.
I see you describe your music as "post punk industrial". Really ?
I think what my bandmate wrote was "Post Punk tinged Industrial", which I took as a nod to the fact that I mostly listen to Post Punk, even though that's not what we do. (For the English as a second language folk here, "tinged" is the same as "tinted" or "influenced".)
Its not like any mainstream punk that I recall. Mind you, I never liked punk so I have limited knowledge about it to draw on.
Post Punk is not Punk, it's what came after Punk. It's a very broad church that encompasses a lot of music that doesn't quite fit anywhere else. It is generally considered that Joy Division were the early flag-bearers but it applies to bands as diverse as Gang of Four, Devo, Alien Sex Fiend, Killing Joke, Modern English, Wall of Voodoo, Scraping Foetus Off the Wheel and New Model Army. The Cure would probably be the most successful Post Punk band. There is also quite a lot of good new Post Punk being made by bands like Actors, Moving Units and Whispering Sons today, so it is still going strong after 40 years. OTOH, there is not much decent Electro-Industrial or EBM being made any more.
dellboy wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 11:31 amI would call it "electro distopian"
I like to call it Cyberpunk but that's a term not often applied to music.
dellboy wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:49 pmMaybe his antipodean roots means some thing else was happening down below contemporaneous with stuff above.
Interestingly, I have only really been aware of Post Punk as a distinct genre in recent years, yet it would encompass most of the live bands I liked to go and see around Sydney in the early/mid 80s, like these -

https://www.discogs.com/Outline-Maybe-I ... se/2918681
https://www.discogs.com/Meo-245-Rites-O ... er/1475299
https://www.discogs.com/Hunters-And-Col ... er/1197771
https://www.discogs.com/Deckchairs-Over ... se/2611950
https://www.discogs.com/artist/742729-Bring-Philip
https://www.discogs.com/Scattered-Order ... ase/874713
https://www.discogs.com/The-Reels-The-R ... ter/210355
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vurt wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:49 pm
dystopian electro would work, but is that a thing?
It is now.

How do we erase stuff once its out there ?

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BONES wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:58 pm I like to call it Cyberpunk but that's a term not often applied to music.
please dont, cyberpunks (the ppl, not the music) are the second biggest clowns going (after steampunks)

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