Arturia 'poly' Brute now launched.

[Stefken]

Yep, so I guess it's pretty good at mono action too.

20 kilograms in weight so that's also pretty brutal.

[excuse me please]

Weird coincedence: the Maxi Brute weighs 21 kg.

https://cinelight.com/tungsten-flood-li ... ans(en|nl)

[Stefken]

[Liero]

Will not buy Arturia products while they have that cheap sans font on the parameters. They should have gone with the classics.

[Spring Goose]

Given how great software instrument are, I think you really need to just 'want' any hardware to be honest, but there is nothing wrong with that

I have a book, about making dance music, which says "i'm just telling you the fact which is that nearly all published dance music song involve at least 1 hardware synth".

[vurt]

Given how great software instrument are, I think you really need to just 'want' any hardware to be honest, but there is nothing wrong with that

I have a book, about making dance music, which says "i'm just telling you the fact which is that nearly all published dance music song involve at least 1 hardware synth".

i love my hardware
but i wouldnt say its necassary to make music, ive managed witbout when i couldnt afford it

also, im not even sure its true what he says anymore, maybe a few years ago it was nore than likely, but tech has progressed fairly quickly on the software side and the differences are more subtle sound wise.

maybe ifyou were gigging, then youd definitely want something that looks like an instrument so people dont think youre just checking the webs.

[Spring Goose]

Given how great software instrument are, I think you really need to just 'want' any hardware to be honest, but there is nothing wrong with that

I have a book, about making dance music, which says "i'm just telling you the fact which is that nearly all published dance music song involve at least 1 hardware synth".

i love my hardware
but i wouldnt say its necassary to make music, ive managed witbout when i couldnt afford it

also, im not even sure its true what he says anymore, maybe a few years ago it was nore than likely, but tech has progressed fairly quickly on the software side and the differences are more subtle sound wise.

maybe ifyou were gigging, then youd definitely want something that looks like an instrument so people dont think youre just checking the webs.

My copy of the book is quite recently updated (2019). Anyway i expect i'll be going by what the book says, and i think i'll benefit from the tactile experience when it comes to designing my own sounds which the book also says is essential. ATM i'm toward the Roland JD-Xa, the videos sound better than my softsynths (for example the analogue filter sounds better than anything i've experienced in software).

but i wouldnt say its necassary to make music, ive managed witbout when i couldnt afford it

I agree, i'm making music now with a bogstandard pc which cost £75 including a monitor, but i already know the music could be better with a higher spec computer (for example doing a mixdown would be very much a pita on this pc).

I have a NI keyboard at the moment which means (unless somebody know how to do it) in Bitwig i'm limited to using Komplete Kontrol software if i want to use the pots which is a bit of a pita and sometimes KK doesn't work for me (the pots are "dead"). I've never had much luck with midi controllers (pots), they never seem to work properly or consistently for me! I had a Novation midi keyboard, which the software was supposed to intelligently assign the pots for your soft synth; it was rubbish, and later the pots apparently "dead" (twist it for midi learn, nothing). Years ago i had a Doepfer Pocket Control which i never could get working.

[SLiC]

Given how great software instrument are, I think you really need to just 'want' any hardware to be honest, but there is nothing wrong with that

I have a book, about making dance music, which says "i'm just telling you the fact which is that nearly all published dance music song involve at least 1 hardware synth".

I don't doubt that at all, at least 1 hardware synths, 1 professional vocalist and a ton of expensive outboard fx as most published music probably still comes out of recording studios and most studios are full of hardware. Also most songs get published because of the melody and vocal hooks... not the 'quality' of the filters used........But if you 'prefer' using hardware (as I do) that's a valid enough reason to use it!

Most people here will never be published, its just a hobby....but if you write an amazing song and want to try and get it published just go to a studio to record and master it (probably need to for the vocals anyway) studio time is very cheap at the moment!

[SLiC]

DP

[vurt]

Given how great software instrument are, I think you really need to just 'want' any hardware to be honest, but there is nothing wrong with that

I have a book, about making dance music, which says "i'm just telling you the fact which is that nearly all published dance music song involve at least 1 hardware synth".

i love my hardware
but i wouldnt say its necassary to make music, ive managed witbout when i couldnt afford it

also, im not even sure its true what he says anymore, maybe a few years ago it was nore than likely, but tech has progressed fairly quickly on the software side and the differences are more subtle sound wise.

maybe ifyou were gigging, then youd definitely want something that looks like an instrument so people dont think youre just checking the webs.

My copy of the book is quite recently updated (2019). Anyway i expect i'm going by what the book says, and i think i'll benefit from the tactile experience when it comes to designing my own sounds which the book also says is essential. ATM i'm toward the Roland JD-Xa, the videos sound better than my softsynths (for example the analogue filter sounds better than anything i've experienced in software).

oh i wont deny there are factors which do help.
just so long as someone isnt spending money they dont have on something they dont "need".

if you like something and its not going to put you in debt (the worry there can ruin the joy of a beautiful instrument) then its not a bad investment. it can inspire you to want to spend more time at the desk.

even with your pain issues (me too remember) i find myself, as much as i enjoy patching the soft modulars and tweaking, i take a lot more breaks away, when the neck or arms ache.
on the hardware i dont suffer as much. due to a better position and even when the aches do start, im more likely to push through, because im so far "in the zone" already

[Spring Goose]

Given how great software instrument are, I think you really need to just 'want' any hardware to be honest, but there is nothing wrong with that

I have a book, about making dance music, which says "i'm just telling you the fact which is that nearly all published dance music song involve at least 1 hardware synth".

I don't doubt that at all, at least 1 hardware synths, 1 professional vocalist and a ton of expensive outboard fx as most published music probably still comes out of recording studios and most studios are full of hardware. Also most songs get published because of the melody and vocal hooks... not the 'quality' of the filters used........But if you 'prefer' using hardware (as I do) that's a valid enough reason to use it!

Most people here will never be published, its just a hobby....but if you write an amazing song and want to try and get it published just go to a studio to record and master it (probably need to for the vocals anyway) studio time is very cheap at the moment!

I'm making techno, which the book explains is "DJ music for DJs" and "most techno music are instrumental". I think in professional techno the 'quality' or sound of the filters might be important. The book explains that most dance music has quite high production values, it's very much about the 'sound' (one blip or squeak is not the same as another blip or squeak).

Most people here will never be published, its just a hobby....but if you write an amazing song and want to try and get it published just go to a studio to record and master it (probably need to for the vocals anyway) studio time is very cheap at the moment!

Thanks for the advice! :D

[Spring Goose]

Given how great software instrument are, I think you really need to just 'want' any hardware to be honest, but there is nothing wrong with that

I have a book, about making dance music, which says "i'm just telling you the fact which is that nearly all published dance music song involve at least 1 hardware synth".

i love my hardware
but i wouldnt say its necassary to make music, ive managed witbout when i couldnt afford it

also, im not even sure its true what he says anymore, maybe a few years ago it was nore than likely, but tech has progressed fairly quickly on the software side and the differences are more subtle sound wise.

maybe ifyou were gigging, then youd definitely want something that looks like an instrument so people dont think youre just checking the webs.

My copy of the book is quite recently updated (2019). Anyway i expect i'm going by what the book says, and i think i'll benefit from the tactile experience when it comes to designing my own sounds which the book also says is essential. ATM i'm toward the Roland JD-Xa, the videos sound better than my softsynths (for example the analogue filter sounds better than anything i've experienced in software).

oh i wont deny there are factors which do help.
just so long as someone isnt spending money they dont have on something they dont "need".

if you like something and its not going to put you in debt (the worry there can ruin the joy of a beautiful instrument) then its not a bad investment. it can inspire you to want to spend more time at the desk.

even with your pain issues (me too remember) i find myself, as much as i enjoy patching the soft modulars and tweaking, i take a lot more breaks away, when the neck or arms ache.
on the hardware i dont suffer as much. due to a better position and even when the aches do start, im more likely to push through, because im so far "in the zone" already

oh no Vurt, i'll be saving the money for the synth. I might not have it for a year or two. Thanks for caring/worrying!

Yeah i know what you mean about the pain. My doctor recommended try push through the pain to do things, but it isn't always possible. (obviously i'm not an expert about willpower!)

[vurt]

yeah, its harder to push through when its not so much fun.

[Spring Goose]

I have a NI keyboard at the moment which means (unless somebody know how to do it) in Bitwig i'm limited to using Komplete Kontrol software if i want to use the pots which is a bit of a pita and sometimes KK doesn't work for me (the pots are "dead"). I've never had much luck with midi controllers (pots), they never seem to work properly or consistently for me!

Actually i'm all good with that now!

[thecontrolcentre]

I had a Novation midi keyboard, which the software was supposed to intelligently assign the pots for your soft synth; it was rubbish, and later the pots apparently "dead" (twist it for midi learn, nothing). Years ago i had a Doepfer Pocket Control which i never could get working.

I've owned both for around 20 years. Never had a problem with either. If you're not good with midi, you might want to reconsider getting a hw synth until you are. Do you still have the Pocket Controller? Its a cool, rare bit of kit these days.