CHOW Tape Model by Jatin Chowdhury
- KVRian
- 823 posts since 27 Aug, 2020
I also use Cakewalk on Win10 and the oscilloscope seems to be working just fine, I'll check it out later, but I believe it works as intended, at least in my case, will report back later.
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- KVRAF
- 6828 posts since 28 Apr, 2004 from france
- KVRAF
- 5958 posts since 16 Aug, 2017 from UK
Might it be related to runtime libraries?planetearth wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:31 am Very helpful Jatin, thanks!
I’m using Cakewalk by BandLab on Win7 (x64), with the latest VST3 version of your plug-in. But no matter what I do, I don’t see an oscilloscope. But that sounds like a nice feature.
Thanks for the quick reply, too!
Steve
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- KVRAF
- 2185 posts since 10 Jul, 2006 from Tampa
I have those; they were installed with something else some time ago. Thanks, though.The Noodlist wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:45 pmMight it be related to runtime libraries?planetearth wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:31 am Very helpful Jatin, thanks!
I’m using Cakewalk by BandLab on Win7 (x64), with the latest VST3 version of your plug-in. But no matter what I do, I don’t see an oscilloscope. But that sounds like a nice feature.
Thanks for the quick reply, too!
Steve
https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/hel ... #section-2
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- KVRAF
- 6828 posts since 28 Apr, 2004 from france
Hello,
two little requests :
- please consider using mm units (instead of cm) for the "loss" section parameters, as it would avoid having to type 0.00000000014 values
- Also, would it be possible to have (maybe optional?) stepped values for the tape speeds (so we would have 3,3/4 > 7.5 > 15 ips etc, and we would avoid thousands of intermediate values like 14,0145, etc).
two little requests :
- please consider using mm units (instead of cm) for the "loss" section parameters, as it would avoid having to type 0.00000000014 values
- Also, would it be possible to have (maybe optional?) stepped values for the tape speeds (so we would have 3,3/4 > 7.5 > 15 ips etc, and we would avoid thousands of intermediate values like 14,0145, etc).
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- KVRist
- 94 posts since 18 Jan, 2019
Yeah, this is a good idea. I'm not sure if I'll do millimeters per say, but I'll try to find some solution that makes it easier to type in values.
Hmm, I'm not sure what advantage the stepped slider would have over the continuous slider, since typing values is allowed. I think maybe a better approach would be to improve the round-off behaviour for entered values.
I'll be tracking the improvements for the Loss section sliders here.
Thanks,
Jatin
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- KVRist
- 94 posts since 18 Jan, 2019
Very strange! My GUI engine does use OpenGL for renderring, so possibly there could be an issue related to that... If I have a minute, I can try to generate a build with OpenGL turned off, and see if that works for you.planetearth wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:31 am I’m using Cakewalk by BandLab on Win7 (x64), with the latest VST3 version of your plug-in. But no matter what I do, I don’t see an oscilloscope. But that sounds like a nice feature.
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- KVRAF
- 6828 posts since 28 Apr, 2004 from france
The advantage would be a faster workflow when you want to stick with standard speed values.
On my tape decks, you just move a switch and it changes the speed : it's fast and easy
I think that on an emulation plugin, it should be faster to "stay in the emulated ballpark (so, here, it means switching from 3.3/4 to 7.5 to 15ips)" than trying unusual settings (in this case, playing around with values like 14.237 or 9.258).
Of course, you can type values, but it takes longer to move a knob, realize that the knob have 5 decimal values, try to set 15 by moving it to the left, fail ( ), try to set 15 by moving it to the right, fail again, then grab the mouse, type "15".
Also, the more you have parameters on a plugin GUI, the more they need to be setup fast.
ChowTape has grown with great new added parameters (which is awesome!), but dealing with 5 decimal values (and in-between values for the tape speed) makes it slower to use.
Of course, it's not a big deal (at all), but, imho, something to consider : if ChowTape aims at accuracy and emulation, it should be faster to switch from 7.5 to 15ips (like the real thing) than getting unusual values like 13.0174
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- KVRAF
- 6828 posts since 28 Apr, 2004 from france
By the way, I was playing around a bit with the input and tone section, here are a couple remarks :
- I didn't notice much difference when playing with the pre/post emphasis knobs. It was very subtle (when I play with pre/post emphasis on real tape machines, it gives much more audible and obvious results, and it is very interesting).
- One further suggestion : adding smooth HP & LP knobs to the input section, to allow for further shaping of the input sound. It would be awesome for parallel processing and when using ChowTape as a distorsion effect.
- I didn't notice much difference when playing with the pre/post emphasis knobs. It was very subtle (when I play with pre/post emphasis on real tape machines, it gives much more audible and obvious results, and it is very interesting).
- One further suggestion : adding smooth HP & LP knobs to the input section, to allow for further shaping of the input sound. It would be awesome for parallel processing and when using ChowTape as a distorsion effect.
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- KVRAF
- 6828 posts since 28 Apr, 2004 from france
... Me again
Suggestion : in the "TONE" section, swap the knob's position : "bass" should be at the bottom, and "trebble" at the top.
Suggestion : in the "TONE" section, swap the knob's position : "bass" should be at the bottom, and "trebble" at the top.
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- KVRAF
- 6828 posts since 28 Apr, 2004 from france
I don't know, as i didn't kept the settings. But i have tried with much hotter input, and now i can hear it.
I think my input wasn't hot enough. Also, it's not really sounding the same than when i'm using a real tape machine and some outboard gear for pre-emphasis, but it may depend on the gear (the actual gear I use and the gear ChowTape is modelling).
However, decreasing the setting (from 0 to -1) doesn't seem to produce any change?
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- KVRist
- 94 posts since 18 Jan, 2019
Thanks for the in-depth explanation here, your point makes a lot of sense. I have a few ideas for balancing the continuous slider with discrete controls... I'll do some experimenting and see what might work.
This could be nice... I might put the knobs in the "Tone" section of the GUI, just to keep things organized.
Haha, that would make too much sense
Again, it should depend on the input level, and hysteresis controls: if the bass frequencies are distorting with the "Bass" knob at zero, then lowering the value will make the bass frequencies sound cleaner.
Thanks,
Jatin