Studio One 5 Available Now (5.3 Out June 29th, 2021)

[antic604]

how can i download demo of Studio One 5?

You can't, as there doesn't seem to be one (yet?).

You have 3 options:

1) Get the free Studio One Prime, which is heavily limited but should be enough to at least get a feel for the DAW:

https://shop.presonus.com/Studio-One-5-Prime
https://www.presonus.com/products/Studi ... e-versions

2) Get Presonus Sphere for a month for $15, to gain access to everything Presonus makes, incl. full Professional version of S1

https://www.presonus.com/products/PreSonus-Sphere

3) Get a 3-day free trial at Splice and - if you like it - buy it for $17/month over 24 months

https://splice.com/daws/38892279-studio ... y-presonus

[accessdune3]

thank you, i will try your suggested options

[chk071]

There is or was a demo though. I tried it out for a few days. It was available in my account (on the first page in the account) when I logged into Presonus' website.

I still have it there, even though it has been moved to "My purchases" on the same page.

[BONES]

Not to beat a dead horse, but I really wish you gave Bitwig a fair, 2nd chance, ideally with aid of someone experienced who can explain how & why it's different from Cubases, Logics and Studio Ones of this world. It's easy to be discouraged, because some concepts are alien and weird, but once they click - and fit or even enhance your workflow - there's no comming back

The problem is that there were so many things about Bitwig that I didn't like or that I had no interest in. The included instruments, for example, I thought were rubbish. All but unusable. And all the modulation stuff - I have no need of any of that. Hell, I barely use any automation, which is why Orion worked so well for me for 20 years.

I know Bitwig is a great application, it's just not made for the way I want to work and that was confirmed by the release of v3, which I find even less appealing. It seems very clearly made for dance music and I f**king hate dance music and all the absurdly over-complex production that seems part and parcel of it.

Remember, too, that I paid $400 for a license and spent a full 6 months trying to get it to work for me. It's not like I tried the demo for a week or two before I gave up. In that 6 months I didn't even get one existing song ported over to my satisfaction. Not one. In contrast, I already have around 40 songs ported to Studio One, which I bought less than three months ago, and most of them are probably 90% of the way to being at a standard I am happy with. I never got close to being this productive in Cubase, either. I only ever got the songs from our new album onto it and nothing else.

Half the battle is finding something you actually enjoy using, something that gets out of the way and allows you to concentrate on being creative and productive. If you have to work at it, why would you bother? (I bothered with Bitwig because I'd spent good money on it.) To be fair S1 might not have been such a great experience if I hadn't first learned how to work in Cubase. Even Cubase was an order of magnitude easier for me to get into than Bitwig.

At the end of the day, you go with what feels right and Bitwig never, ever felt right for me. OTOH, Studio One makes perfect sense, in every way, and lets me work the way I want to work. Honestly, I can only think of one thing I don't particularly like about S1 - how you enter notes in the piano roll - and that is directly compensated for by other features - e.g. Using "D" to append duplicates of any selection - and every other PR, except Orion's, is the same anyway.

[andypryce]

When I bought it, it was to replace Orion for our live shows but I've since decided that it's going to be my one and only host from now on. Screw Cubase, life's too short.

Not to beat a dead horse, but I really wish you gave Bitwig a fair, 2nd chance, ideally with aid of someone experienced who can explain how & why it's different from Cubases, Logics and Studio Ones of this world. It's easy to be discouraged, because some concepts are alien and weird, but once they click - and fit or even enhance your workflow - there's no comming back

Why? He seems happy with Studio One no?

[antic604]

...Half the battle is finding something you actually enjoy using, something that gets out of the way and allows you to concentrate on being creative and productive. If you have to work at it, why would you bother? (I bothered with Bitwig because I'd spent good money on it.) To be fair S1 might not have been such a great experience if I hadn't first learned how to work in Cubase. Even Cubase was an order of magnitude easier for me to get into than Bitwig...

I see, thans for going in-depth with your explanation

I still think it's our past experiences that decide our later preferences though. I started with trackers (in the 90's), had a break until 2014 or so, started using Renoise in 2014 and Live in 2017. If one zooms out, they all have a fundamentally similar way of working, i.e. via patterns / scenes rather than linearly, they - Renoise & Live in particular - represent the device chains graphically and they encourage elaborate signal splitting, routing and modulation. Those things seem so natural to me, that I think of them as "basics", whereas for many people "basics" are audio comping, notation editor, sophisticated MIDI features, etc. It's also fascinating to think how DAW choice impacts music I (and probably we all, too) make. I can pull off my regular music - psytrance & its derivatives - in any DAW basically, but I can't fathom making orchestral or rock piece in Bitwig, for example. I know it can be done and succesfuly, but for me it's beyond imagination, whereas I can easily make some funky or jazzy stuff in Reason, for some reason.

Again, thanks!

[antic604]

Why? He seems happy with Studio One no?

You're new here? My life-long mission is to convert everybody to Bitwig!

No, but seriously I've nothing against anyone using and preferring Studio One or whatever other DAW. I myself use 3-4. It's just that Bitwig can seem off-putting if it's not understood properly. Like the comments about its native instruments being "meh". They sort of are, but the whole point is to treat them as fancy oscillators, that you piece together in Instrument Layers / Selectors, add Note FX and regular audio FX to build a patch that's only then comparable to commercial VSTs. Not everyone wants that, or even knows how to do that, which is totally fine. But sometimes person's eyes have to be opened, so that they don't compare Omnisphere with Polysynth and based on that say - it's crap. And it's pretty much the same with a lot of other things in Bitwig. It's sort of a DIY DAW, to some extent and - again - I can see not everyone might want that. But as it is with life, you often don't know what you want until you try - so buy Bitwig or Upgrade Plan until the end of this week and get a free Arturia plugin!

[andypryce]

Why? He seems happy with Studio One no?

You're new here? My life-long mission is to convert everybody to Bitwig!

so buy Bitwig or Upgrade Plan until the end of this week and get a free Arturia plugin!

[antic604]

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[Crossinger]

It's sort of a DIY DAW, to some extent and - again - I can see not everyone might want that. But as it is with life, you often don't know what you want until you try

I tried the DIY DAW approach the hard way with Reason. And after six years barely finishing a track, I remorsefully reverted back to the conservative competitors (evaluated Cubase, Studio One, and Logic). And now I’m happy with S1.

[antic604]

It's sort of a DIY DAW, to some extent and - again - I can see not everyone might want that. But as it is with life, you often don't know what you want until you try

I tried the DIY DAW approach the hard way with Reason. And after six years barely finishing a track, I remorsefully reverted back to the conservative competitors (evaluated Cubase, Studio One, and Logic). And now I’m happy with S1.

I get that, but it's very subjective.

For many, myself included, just the process of creating is fun and often the end-goal. Most of the time I don't even save what I did, just enjoy the journey. Usually I start from scratch too, despite there being an extensive system for saving complete, complex patches.

But obviously this won't work for someone who wants to live off of music or at least finish it

[Crossinger]

Most of the time I don't even save what I did, just enjoy the journey.

I know what you mean Fortunately for my „play the moment“ journeys I have a fairly large hardware Synth collection.

[BONES]

... patterns / scenes rather than linearly, they - Renoise & Live in particular - represent the device chains graphically and they encourage elaborate signal splitting, routing and modulation. Those things seem so natural to me, that I think of them as "basics", whereas for many people "basics" are audio comping, notation editor, sophisticated MIDI features, etc.

None of that stuff really concerns me at all. My main focii are the mixer and the piano roll. In a real studio, the mixer is the centre of everything and that's what I want in my DAW, too. I don't need any fancy MIDI tools or tricky routing of anything. If those basics are sound, it will allow me to make it do whatever I need it to do. Overall, though, the simpler I can keep things, the better job I can do. If I need to resort to using effects on more than one or two channels or I have to start thinking about side-chaining or any of that kind of thing, I question whether I am using the right sounds and start swapping out instruments to clean it up that way. You won't find fancy chains of anything in my work, just the fundamentals honed to the finest edge I can manage.

[THE INTRANCER]

It's sort of a DIY DAW, to some extent and - again - I can see not everyone might want that. But as it is with life, you often don't know what you want until you try

I tried the DIY DAW approach the hard way with Reason. And after six years barely finishing a track, I remorsefully reverted back to the conservative competitors (evaluated Cubase, Studio One, and Logic). And now I’m happy with S1.

I started with Reason 1.0 in 2001, far more basic than it is now and produced more music with it than any other DAW in 20 years. On Reasonstation I had around 50 compositions uploaded to that site. I didn't upgrade to R8 though, as they changed the interface whilst screwing with the workflow. For a number of other factors including those I switched to Studio One 2, - 3.0 - 4.0 where I remain on 4.6. There really wasn't enough included in 5.0 to justify the price.. and don't think I'm even inclined to buy an upgrade for half the price during black friday.

Still, if you're choosing Studio One, one has to start somewhere.

[gentleclockdivider]

Why? He seems happy with Studio One no?

Like the comments about its native instruments being "meh". They sort of are, but the whole point is to treat them as fancy oscillators, that you piece together in Instrument Layers / Selectors, add Note FX and regular audio FX to build a patch that's only then comparable to commercial VSTs. Not everyone wants that, or even knows how to do that, which is totally fine. But sometimes person's eyes have to be opened, so that they don't compare Omnisphere with Polysynth and based on that say - it's crap. [/url]

That's the whole point ,some people don't want to start with basic building blocks that sound mehhh ( and are hard coded ) , there are far better and greater tools for that , my weapon of choice is and has been reaktor for almost 2 decades
I tried bitwig demo version 1,2 and 3 ( in depth ) , the grid was nice but nothing I can't do with other tools ( and more ) , the phasor/ramp distortion modules for cz style stuff is great , phase 4 is also pretty nice .
The whole modulation system , while being great it's not something everyone cares about but it does add up to the selling price
I applaud the bitwig developers for taking a leftfield approach ,but not everyone cares about a gazzillion lfos etc ( figure of speech ) , also the filter algoritms are imho nothing to write home about .
The gui overhead is still there since version 1 when doing large projects , maybe they should focus on that instead of adding another synth , grid module
My 2 cents