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Orbit-50 wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:05 pm
chk071 wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 4:51 pm
Orbit-50 wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:51 pm Are these perpetual licenses in this bundle?
Yes. Edit: All except CorelDraw actually, which seems to be a half year subscription...!

Also just pulled the trigger on the 25,43 € package, to check out CorelCad... I absolutely detest Blender, so, I hope that is an easier entry to the world of 3D.
Thanks man. I didn't see anywhere that said it. Dude, secretly between me and you...I'm an idiot when it comes to this "Humble Bundle" thing. How the hell does this actually work? I mean like, it's one of those things where "if it seems to good to be true, than it usually is". I'm having trouble digesting this to the point of being paralyzed when it's time to put something in a cart, or offer anything etc... How does this actually work?
They will create an account for you with all your key and download links, if that's what you mean.
The reason for it, is to support charity and to gain some easy customers that they can try to con into upgrading to the latest versions for much higher fees. These are absolutely not the latest versions, but they are only one version behind pretty much.

*dunno about the sub thing for corel draw, I am not particularly interested in it.

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CorelCad is not the best entry into 3D as the 3D part is really only added on. The graphics engine for it will be slow, and solid modeling is only basic. E.g. you can draw a shape, extrude it, then join or subtract it from another shape. Construtive Solid Geometry they call it, it's nothing at all like the solid modeling in a high-end engineering tool like solidworks. Of course, solidworks costs about $4k I believe.

That said, it's certainly useful for precise but basic 3D modeling and precision 2D drafting.

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TBH, I have no idea about these programs. If it's good enough to get a kind of sneak peek (I don't even know if it's my kind of thing really...), then I'm happy, I guess. :) All I'm asking for is a easier GUI, because other programs, and especially Blender are pretty steep for a beginner (and I really hate Blender's GUI... seriously, every free Open Source software I come along just suffers from really bad GUI's. Seems like the focus isn't really on that, or, they're just not good at it (I guess the latter)).

Regarding Humble Bundle: I think the point for Corel and similar companies is to get some recognition, and getting attention for their software. The versions are a bit older, but, the full deal from a couple of years.

TBH, I opted to give the company 100% of the buying price this time, because I don't want to donate for political charities. Fair enough if the party who created the product gets the full share.

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There are also great free programs like Inkscape or PAINT.NET! :)

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I would think CorelCad is going to be better than most freeware Cad software. I have not paid much attention to that in some years, but unless they have gotten way better, go with Corel. A lot of it is in the UI, opensource dev's typically don't have the resources or the time to put into the UI that a commercial outfit like Corel does. Corel will also go out of their way to match the features of much higher priced stuff, which is why it's so similar to AutoCAD. Opensource dev's generally don't care about that, they are more about standards based functionality as opposed to usability or similarity to popular commercial products.

*Hehe, I don't even look at the charity part over who gets what tbh...

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Scribus is great and free for publishing, too! :love:

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pekbro wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:01 am I would think CorelCad is going to be better than most freeware Cad software. I have not paid much attention to that in some years, but unless they have gotten way better, go with Corel. A lot of it is in the UI, opensource dev's typically don't have the resources or the time to put into the UI that a commercial outfit like Corel does. Corel will also go out of their way to match the features of much higher priced stuff, which is why it's so similar to AutoCAD. Opensource dev's generally don't care about that, they are more about standards based functionality as opposed to usability or similarity to popular commercial products.
Just my experience as well. :tu:

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The biggest difference in learning when it comes to CAD drafting or say drawing in illustrator, is the precision. With drafting, precise measurements are critical, so generally everything is an operation or function in CAD. For instance, you don't generally draw a curve to make an arc where you can simply move it's control points around later like you can in illustrator. For CAD an arc is a function of 2 or 3 parameters, start point, end point and radius, all of those have to be entered via cursor position or numeric entry, once they are supplied, you can execute the arc function via the space bar. With CAD, everything is like that pretty much.

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Honestly, sometimes I have the impression (and this is NOT directed at @pekbro but at quite a few people here) that they only have the most expensive software and the most expensive and new plugins to brag about and not to create really great art.

In the 90ies I made a great school magazine with my AMIGA 500, a cheap desktop publishing program and with a 24 needle printer and a lot of work with scissors and a lot of glue and it was a success.

It's the end result that counts, not if you're using expensive Corel Software for many hundreds of $$ or opensource or free software :!:

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Mostly I was specifically targeting CAD, inkscape and gimp are definitely great alternatives. I've been involved with gimp for many years, having even used it for feature film work. Cinepaint is a perfect example of the benefits of opensource software, for a long time it was the only practical option for high depth color processing for film.

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But is it really worth to use much older software versions from Humble Bundle when it cannot be simply upgraded to the newest version for a cheap price :?:

I always tend to be sceptical with these offers...

I have the same problem with iZotope, they didn't send me cheap upgrade offers.

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If they were significantly older probably, but CorelCad for instance in Ver 2019 vs 2020 (doh :lol: ). Also as I mentioned earlier in the thread, those versions are the only option for folks running win 7-8. It also depends on your needs, I love that I got soundforge 11 for like $15, I use it a lot, and have no serious interest in ver 12. As for painter, the version I paid $400 for some years ago, is version 12, 5 or 6 versions below what is on offer. I have not even downloaded painter 2020, I just figured it better to pay $30 vs the $200 or so it would cost me to upgrade from 12.
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Thank you guys for the detailed responses. Especially pekbro! I've been using FreeCad which is pretty good, but as chk071 said, free software is not designed with user interface slickness in mind, also the fact that I really don't feel like spending $4500.00 on a professional CAD program or heavy subscriptions for that matter. I would be totally fine with an older version of CorelCad even though I can't stand Corel's marketing tactics... (system tray advertising popups? Who the f*** does that???) But regardless of all of that, for the Humble price, that's not bad at all for the 2019 version. I'm sure many have used it with great success and if it's good enough for them, then it's good enough for me. Thank you guys again for the explanation. I will do this.

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@ Orbit-50 thanks, and no worries :tu:

On topic again: One other thing about CorelCad and 3D modeling: a perfectly handy thing to do, is to draw the profile in 2D, then export it to blender or whatever, then extrude or otherwise create your surfaces from it there. Then you have the full editing functionality of the 3D software for use with the precise 2D profile.

Also, while it might seem tedious or difficult to draw like that, it's really not a big deal. Don't forget, CAD is the king of snap-to whatever, grid, points, end-points, corners, intersects, mid-points etc. Good CAD software has ridiculous amounts of precision drawing aids to make it easy.

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For anyone that bought this bundle and have noticed popups appearing about the latest version of Painter, I though that this info will be of use to you. You should be able to disable them permanently in Windows vie the Task Scheduler as I've described in the 'How To' below.

Also, there is the option within Corel Painter where you can do from this vie the 'Help' menu 'Messaging Settings'. More info here, which relates to Corel Painshop Pro in this case. (Painshop Pro is also included in this bundle and is something that you'll want to do if it's installed also)..

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How To Disable The Corel Popup Notifications In Windows 7 /10
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Type ' Task' into the Windows Start Menu search field
and select Task Scheduler

Select the 'Task Scheduler Library' folder icon at the top of the
folder tree on the left window pane and you'll see a list of active
scheduled events drop down on the middle pane.

Right click and select 'Disable'...
'CorelUpdateHelperTask' and 'CorelUpdateHelperTaskCore')

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Do note that these options affect the updating process of Corel Painter. (Don't know if there are any myself having not checked). There's also a way to do this vie the registry but you can look that up yourselves.
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