KVR Audio

noiseresearch · Post by **noiseresearch** » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:39 pm

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docbot · Post by **docbot** » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:56 pm

All I want at this point is for them to copy Bitwigs way of handling audio clips, where you can just drag the time out, insert a second sample in the same audio clip and move them around etc.

Jolaff · Post by **Jolaff** » Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:42 am

docbot wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:56 pm All I want at this point is for them to copy Bitwigs way of handling audio clips, where you can just drag the time out, insert a second sample in the same audio clip and move them around etc.

And what is the benefit of this over just joining 2 audio clip in Live ?

andypryce · Post by **andypryce** » Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:12 am

Jolaff wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:42 am
docbot wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:56 pm All I want at this point is for them to copy Bitwigs way of handling audio clips, where you can just drag the time out, insert a second sample in the same audio clip and move them around etc.
And what is the benefit of this over just joining 2 audio clip in Live ?

It helps to easily move, copy around lots of small audio bits that you do not want to join. You just select the container instead of trying to select the whole bits.I use the feature with Studio One when I chop up a sample and want to keep it chopped or if I lay the kick drum on an audio track and want to keep each hit seperate so if I change the tempo the kicks just follows the grid instead of joining them and having to stretch the whole file and degrading it. Also by containers, parts you get a cleaner, tidier look. Nothing essential but helpful.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:37 am

Jolaff wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:42 amAnd what is the benefit of this over just joining 2 audio clip in Live ?

The biggest benefit is you can edit audio right there in Clip Launcher, which you can't do in Live - you need to drag a clip to Arrangement, edit it and drag it back to Session.

PieBerger · Post by **PieBerger** » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:14 am

andypryce wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:12 am
Jolaff wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:42 am
docbot wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:56 pm All I want at this point is for them to copy Bitwigs way of handling audio clips, where you can just drag the time out, insert a second sample in the same audio clip and move them around etc.
And what is the benefit of this over just joining 2 audio clip in Live ?
It helps to easily move, copy around lots of small audio bits that you do not want to join. You just select the container instead of trying to select the whole bits.I use the feature with Studio One when I chop up a sample and want to keep it chopped or if I lay the kick drum on an audio track and want to keep each hit seperate so if I change the tempo the kicks just follows the grid instead of joining them and having to stretch the whole file and degrading it. Also by containers, parts you get a cleaner, tidier look. Nothing essential but helpful.

Big +1 from me for this. I love Live as a creative tool and it's overall approach to production, but I'm dying for minor editing workflow improvements like this. It's really annoying when you have chopped up audio and you have to decide whether to create a new audio file, to keep things tidy and easier to work with or keeping your options open and saving disk space. Container clips are pretty standard across the board now, so I hope Ableton will include them soon.

liquidsound · Post by **liquidsound** » Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:41 pm

I don’t use it much but it’s a good feature.
I use it in S1 for drums but in BWS the Clip is more flexible than S1.

leeleema · Post by **leeleema** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:45 pm

Ableton definitely seem to be the slowest of the bunch to do minor updates. I always think they are resting on their laurels. There are so many things about the arrangement view that just plain irritate me, mainly the irrational waste of space in many cases, as if it hasn't been thought out properly. Does anyone know how to feedback to Ableton suggestions for improvements?

Effectsworks · Post by **Effectsworks** » Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:48 pm

I'd love to see a strip silence feature added.

liquidsound · Post by **liquidsound** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:26 am

leeleema · Post by **leeleema** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:09 pm

Maybe Live 11 in 2025: biggest change is a new font; reviewers wet their pants and say that alone is worth the $99 upgrade.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:45 pm

leeleema wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:09 pm...reviewers wet their pants and say that alone is worth the $99 upgrade.

Wasn't it $199 last time?

True about the pants, though

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:56 pm

antic604 wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:45 pm
Wasn't it $199 last time?

IIRC, it was over $200 for Suite

leeleema · Post by **leeleema** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:58 pm

pdxindy wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:56 pm
antic604 wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:45 pm
Wasn't it $199 last time?

IIRC, it was over $200 for Suite

Blimey. You chaps might be right. I remember upgrading to suite from standard when 10 came out and that was a few bob. $300 rings a bell. That's a lot isn't it

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:20 pm

leeleema wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:58 pmBlimey. You chaps might be right. I remember upgrading to suite from standard when 10 came out and that was a few bob. $300 rings a bell. That's a lot isn't it

I just checked. It was EUR199 in Feb '18 for 9 Suite -> 10 Suite

The next Live update?