Your fave MIDI fx, arp, mapper, mangler, generator, chorder, controller, utility. VST or MFX
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- KVRist
- 133 posts since 3 Sep, 2005 from Venezuela
I just downloaded Riffer demo, but unfortunately it has many limitations to better test it. But it seem to be a very interesting and creative helper. BTW, Playbeat is impressive!
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- KVRian
- 743 posts since 16 Jan, 2019 from deep inside
if you're ever looking for a few more Phrasebox presets, this guy made some:
https://youtu.be/JI8Ab1sTlQo
https://youtu.be/JI8Ab1sTlQo
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- KVRist
- 133 posts since 3 Sep, 2005 from Venezuela
Yes, great pack of presets. I contacted him right after watching the video, a nice guy who is doing very well on the field. That collection is a must for Phrasebox!psynical wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:31 am if you're ever looking for a few more Phrasebox presets, this guy made some:
https://youtu.be/JI8Ab1sTlQo
Session guitarist and music producer from Venezuela
One of my old demos: (Scarbee and Overloud)
https://bit.ly/3mDq0D3
One of my old demos: (Scarbee and Overloud)
https://bit.ly/3mDq0D3
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- KVRian
- 825 posts since 27 Nov, 2003 from UK, Polegate
So might I enquire of you learned gentlefolk, is there a good option for creating evolving semi-random self-generating MIDI patterns ?
I'm a guitar/song/voice type of bloke, innit, blood ? But I'd quite like to play along to some self-generating MIDI stuff ...but I don't know nothing about it, do I guv ?
I did buy Reaktor cheap a while back and it lies there like a big scary techno monster.
I'm a guitar/song/voice type of bloke, innit, blood ? But I'd quite like to play along to some self-generating MIDI stuff ...but I don't know nothing about it, do I guv ?
I did buy Reaktor cheap a while back and it lies there like a big scary techno monster.
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- Banned
- 2525 posts since 4 Jul, 2019
notwithstanding the negative comments above I find Riffer excellent for this sort of thing. You can program in a pattern and have it change as often as you want. You can set some beats to never change and the others to change. You can set the scale and the key as well. But there are plenty of programs that will do the sort of thing you mention, just you will have to find one that gels with your way of workinghotmitts wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:02 am So might I enquire of you learned gentlefolk, is there a good option for creating evolving semi-random self-generating MIDI patterns ?
I'm a guitar/song/voice type of bloke, innit, blood ? But I'd quite like to play along to some self-generating MIDI stuff ...but I don't know nothing about it, do I guv ?
I did buy Reaktor cheap a while back and it lies there like a big scary techno monster.
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- KVRian
- 825 posts since 27 Nov, 2003 from UK, Polegate
Thanks Fairlyclose, I'll look into it morefairlyclose wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:41 am
notwithstanding the negative comments above I find Riffer excellent for this sort of thing. You can program in a pattern and have it change as often as you want. You can set some beats to never change and the others to change. You can set the scale and the key as well. But there are plenty of programs that will do the sort of thing you mention, just you will have to find one that gels with your way of working
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- KVRist
- 398 posts since 25 Aug, 2018
I think the thing that might be missing from Riffer is the evolving bit. You can do random and semi-random patterns with Riffer by clicking the die, but once clicked, the pattern is fixed until you click it again.fairlyclose wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:41 amnotwithstanding the negative comments above I find Riffer excellent for this sort of thing. You can program in a pattern and have it change as often as you want. You can set some beats to never change and the others to change. You can set the scale and the key as well. But there are plenty of programs that will do the sort of thing you mention, just you will have to find one that gels with your way of workinghotmitts wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:02 am So might I enquire of you learned gentlefolk, is there a good option for creating evolving semi-random self-generating MIDI patterns ?
I'm a guitar/song/voice type of bloke, innit, blood ? But I'd quite like to play along to some self-generating MIDI stuff ...but I don't know nothing about it, do I guv ?
I did buy Reaktor cheap a while back and it lies there like a big scary techno monster.
Since you have Reaktor, you could check out NOD-E or Fugue.
Edit:
Just realized that Riffer has that infinity button that can change the pattern automatically on each play through. Kind of cool.
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- KVRian
- 825 posts since 27 Nov, 2003 from UK, Polegate
Thanks I'll check them out - free too !courtjestr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:27 pm
Since you have Reaktor, you could check out NOD-E or Fugue.
Edit:
Just realized that Riffer has that infinity button that can change the pattern automatically on each play through. Kind of cool.
I was looking at this too, although it's no longer free
https://www.adsrsounds.com/product/software/hexcel/
- KVRist
- 110 posts since 16 Dec, 2014
I'm sure there will be a lot of Black Friday sales popping up, but felt it worth mentioning a couple products that have received positive attention on this thread. Plugin Boutique has Harvest for $19 and Venomode Phrasebox for $29, PLUS you get a choice of one of four free products with each purchase, so make separate purchases to get more freebies. I believe the freebies run through Nov 30- not sure about the MIDI tools' price cuts.
Homebrew MSI Ryzen 3700x 32G RAM 4.5 Ghz, Win 10 Pro 22H2, Focusrite 2i2 v3 i/o, Komplete S49, Ableton Live 12, FL 21, Studio One
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- KVRian
- 743 posts since 16 Jan, 2019 from deep inside
and a reminder that VCV Rack is an incredible playground for having fun with midi and creating generative sequences.
https://youtu.be/MSscijDAdug
https://youtu.be/MSscijDAdug
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5785 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA
Reason Rack Players sale:
https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/deal ... =price_asc
I believe it ends on 11-30-20
Hmmm! What to get?
I have Reason Lite.
Should I still get the Reason Intro?
I will primarily use it for the midi Players.
https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/deal ... =price_asc
I believe it ends on 11-30-20
Hmmm! What to get?
I have Reason Lite.
Should I still get the Reason Intro?
I will primarily use it for the midi Players.
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- KVRAF
- 12925 posts since 30 Apr, 2019
I’m intrigued by the Enlightenspeed Melodic Inverter, going to demo it laterKalamata Kid wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:59 pm Reason Rack Players sale:
https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/deal ... =price_asc
I believe it ends on 11-30-20
Hmmm! What to get?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5785 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA
^^^
Interesting.
Glad you mentioned it.
Please give us a review even a very brief one if you have the time.
Interesting.
Glad you mentioned it.
Please give us a review even a very brief one if you have the time.
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- KVRAF
- 12925 posts since 30 Apr, 2019
My music theory knowledge doesn't extend to how to build inversions, maybe someone on here can help? I thought it should only include the notes you input, but arranged in a different order on the keyboard, but I had some (mainly) C major scale chords input and it converted as below with different Global Algorithm preset values:-Kalamata Kid wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:07 pm ^^^
Interesting.
Glad you mentioned it.
Please give us a review even a very brief one if you have the time.
from
C / Em / C / Am / Bm / F / G / F
to
[MEL INVERT]
Cmaj9 / Em7 / C(no 5) / C6 add(m2) / Bm / F / G / F add(m3)
[RANDOM]
Cmaj9 / G6 / C(no 5) / A add(m3) / Bm / F / G / F add(m3)
[EVOLVER]
C / C7 add(7) / Cm add(b5) / A (no 5th) / Fdim7(b9) / F / G / F
Have no idea if that's right or not, but it was good enough to use as an arp over a pad from the original chords after I added a Scales and Keys to divert it all into C major again.
There does appear to be some randomisation the way it converted the same chords input into different chords output.
Will play around with it a bit more over the weekend to see if it's worth picking up.
- KVRAF
- 2353 posts since 3 Mar, 2010
IIRC, it is definitely not creating inversions of the original chord, but rather applying certain "transformations" to the individual notes - for example, mirroring the notes around a scale (e.g., if the original note is 5 steps above the tonic, the transformed note may be 5 steps below the tonic). As a result, you could very well end up with output that is outside your original key unless you do apply a constraint after the output such as you did.