Anyone else leave Cubase for Ableton?

[mikecueto]

I recently purchased Ableton Intro for liver performance, but loved it so much I went and bought standard. Now that I have the workflow of Ableton down (somewhat) I may just ditch Cubase altogether.

Cubase just feels so...clunky, and convoluted. I know it's often referred to as a very "deep" DAW, but I feel often that's an excuse for its steep learning curve...

I'll probably keep it around for mastering and such, but, has anyone else out there moved on to Ableton from Cubase?

Why?

What do you like better?

Anything you miss about Cubase?

[W23]

I actually got the cross-grade deal for Cubase as an Ableton user. I like Cubase, and I will probably will keep it, but Ableton’s workflow is a lot more streamlined. It really lends itself well to mangling audio (and midi) like no other. I think you really need the Suite version to match all of the capabilities of Cubase, though. I think what drives me nuts about Cubase is that it can be really difficult to find everything. It got to be a process of elimination clicking on a button, or a tile, or at the header trying to find the correct command or edit window, or whatever. Live is set up to where it’s easier to find things. That’s why I’ve stuck with Live.

[xbitz]

dunno in Cubase both track related channel settings and instrument can be opened/closed by shortkey and the Browse project window can give a nice overview

so I can find my things (+ with media browser/pool)

easy audio mangling that's true that needs thirty party plugins like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2sP7-7mu7E
like the first comment

IMf410
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Why didn't i see this 7 months ago lol. I learned ableton for no reason now.

time stretching is coming: "Time Stretching in Nuance and more!" viewtopic.php?f=300&t=549497

anyway I miss a dedicated mixer view from AL best

[antic604]

...has anyone else out there moved on to Ableton from Cubase?

No, you're the first to ever do that! Please make extensive notes so that others could benefit from your trail blazing, daring steps

But more seriously - have you considered Bitwig?

[tooneba]

Let me know when Hans Zimmer moved to ableton.

[xbitz]

different people have different needs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBMNRql ... icMagazine
at least he doesn't need mixer view cheater

vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGXlWj- ... nicAcademy
so for Orchestral Hybrid where needs keyswitches, expressions maps and articulations etc. I also wouldn't choose AL/BW

to the @OP maybe worth to check the DAW chart and generate a weighted result list
https://www.admiralbumblebee.com/DAW-Chart.html which depends on your needs

[trtzbass]

I just left Cubase for anything that works without a dongle.
I already had Ableton and it's loads of fun

[pixel85]

No. I use both. For serious piano roll work Cubase beat Live 1000 times. Lack of full piano roll window with more advanced tools is huge problem for me.
From the other hand unlimited number of FX in Live beats Cubase.
I can't just use one of them because each has its advantages.
And... Ableton has fast workflow bit I execute everything faster in Cubase thanks to macros and keyboard shortcuts. Eg. Automatic marking and exporting hundreds of SFX in Cubase can be ultra fast (oneexport). In Live I have to mark and export every SFX one by one - which would take me ages.

[chk071]

I love such threads. "Did you leave your Fiat Punto, and bought a Ferrari?".

Wonder if those newcomers all have some kind of contract with a market research company.

[antic604]

From the other hand unlimited number of FX in Live beats Cubase.

Cubase has limited number of FX??

[pixel85]

From the other hand unlimited number of FX in Live beats Cubase.

Cubase has limited number of FX??

16 per channel. How you may not know that if you use Cubase

tbh I never had need to fill all 16 slots or to get even close to that. But it's nice to have options

[pixel85]

I love such threads. "Did you leave your Fiat Punto, and bought a Ferrari?".

Wonder if those newcomers all have some kind of contract with a market research company.

Aren't these kind of topics to help in procrastination? I thought that it's the main and only purpose.

[antic604]

16 per channel. How you may not know that if you use Cubase

tbh I never had need to fill all 16 slots or to get even close to that. But it's nice to have options

Used. Apparently I never got to so many inserts before it either crashed or I rage-quit it because of some annoying "feature"

[pixel85]

16 per channel. How you may not know that if you use Cubase

tbh I never had need to fill all 16 slots or to get even close to that. But it's nice to have options

Used. Apparently I never got to so many inserts before it either crashed or I rage-quit it because of some annoying "feature"

You must be very lucky then Cubase works (almost) perfectly for me for more than 10 years. It has some quirks but crashes are very rare and always because of plugins (PA and their famous f*** up which maked their plugins unusable for around one year and Acustica Audio but their tech and optimalisation is very "special" )

[dellboy]

My mini review...........

I like Cubase.

I like Ableton.

Logics Ok

Waveform crashes.

I try FL studio once a year for 3 minutes and then delete it.

Bitwig is strictly for Bitwig people.

Studio One does the job

Reason is so yesterday

Cakewalk is free

Mixcraft - pass

Have you tried Reaper ?