Amplitube5 - Release Date 15-16/12/2020

[Echoes in the Attic]

When I go to look at Amplitube SE, and click the gear page, it shows basically of the amps from all collections. Says 99$ up in the corner. That can't be true. What kind of trickery is this?

[Rad Dead]

I indeed hope Fender 1 was reworked towards higher standard of Fender 2.

[telecode]

Was there a lower cost upgrade from Total Studio to Total Studio 2?

I think in the past it was $99.

I think, based on all the strange pussy footing around by IKM from clearly answering the question asked on many forums , it would be best that, if you already own AT 4 and a bunch of the collections, just install and upgrade to CS and see if it updates everything.

IKM are not answering the questions asked straightforward. He keeps urging and directly people to "upgrade to AT 5 if you want access to all the collections because its a great deal". He is purposely evading answering the question. Its very concerning that a company bullshits existing costumers who are familiar with their products.

[CapnLockheed]

Was there a lower cost upgrade from Total Studio to Total Studio 2?

I think in the past it was $99.

I think, based on all the strange pussy footing around by IKM from clearly answering the question asked on many forums , it would be best that, if you already own AT 4 and a bunch of the collections, just install and upgrade to CS and see if it updates everything.

IKM are not answering the questions asked straightforward. He keeps urging and directly people to "upgrade to AT 5 if you want access to all the collections because its a great deal". He is purposely evading answering the question. Its very concerning that a company bullshits existing costumers who are familiar with their products.

Nothing new there. That's been their "business model" for years.

[telecode]

Was there a lower cost upgrade from Total Studio to Total Studio 2?

I think in the past it was $99.

I think, based on all the strange pussy footing around by IKM from clearly answering the question asked on many forums , it would be best that, if you already own AT 4 and a bunch of the collections, just install and upgrade to CS and see if it updates everything.

IKM are not answering the questions asked straightforward. He keeps urging and directly people to "upgrade to AT 5 if you want access to all the collections because its a great deal". He is purposely evading answering the question. Its very concerning that a company bullshits existing costumers who are familiar with their products.

Nothing new there. That's been their "business model" for years.

I really hate to be a hater. But What they are doing now is pretty crappy. Seriously thinking, jump ship to NeuralDSP and give them my money instead.

[acousticglue]

Oh good Lord just keep 4 what is so tough about that.

[acousticglue]

I hope a 5 is coming as it is due. I won't buy Neural for sure. I have way too many things as is.

[electro]

What is AT5 SE?

[tappert]

Looks like AT5 SE is the new name for Amplitube standard edition and AT5 is the new Deluxe one. Am I wrong?

[jamcat]

I don't see the big deal here.
If you bought AmpliTube 4 MAX, then you got tonnes of gear at an extremely reduced price per bundle/model. If you then Buy AmpliTube 5 MAX, you get a tonne more gear at an extremely reduced price per bundle/model.

If you had been buying the bundles as they came out, you wouldn't need to buy AmpliTube 5 MAX to get all that gear, but you also would have spent considerably more total on those bundles individually than you would pay for AmpliTube 5 MAX.

So the complaint seems to be that you got a good deal then, and you're offered a good deal now, but someone else may get an even better deal, if they never bought AmpliTube in any form before (but own some other IK software that qualifies them for the Crossgrade.)

IK seems to be pretty accommodating, though. Usually these predictable complaints are met with some kind of remedy, such as an additional coupon for the affected people, or a free upgrade for users who purchased the previous version within a few weeks or month. So maybe they'll do that again.

[bmanic]

Not convinced at all by the audio examples found in the Audio tab of the webpage. I don't know what it's about the IK multimedia sound when it comes to guitar simulation but I just don't jive with it at all. All of the examples, while different and encompassing the "macro" character of whatever it is they are showcasing, it still sounds hollow and slightly "weak" somehow.

I just don't get it.. meaning I'm questioning my own sanity/brain here as much as I'm questioning IK Multimedia's ability to get amp modelling done well.

Sigh..

[telecode]

I don't see the big deal here.
If you bought AmpliTube 4 MAX, then you got tonnes of gear at an extremely reduced price per bundle/model. If you then Buy AmpliTube 5 MAX, you get a tonne more gear at an extremely reduced price per bundle/model.

If you had been buying the bundles as they came out, you wouldn't need to buy AmpliTube 5 MAX to get all that gear, but you also would have spent considerably more total on those bundles individually than you would pay for AmpliTube 5 MAX.

So the complaint seems to be that you got a good deal then, and you're offered a good deal now, but someone else may get an even better deal, if they never bought AmpliTube in any form before (but own some other IK software that qualifies them for the Crossgrade.)

IK seems to be pretty accommodating, though. Usually these predictable complaints are met with some kind of remedy, such as an additional coupon for the affected people, or a free upgrade for users who purchased the previous version within a few weeks or month. So maybe they'll do that again.

Nope. The complaint is that they are not being straight forward as to what you are actually getting if you are a AT 4 user and you go out and buy AT 5 upgrade. Kind of crappy thing to do with people that are supposed to be your core customers and fans.

The spreadsheet lists all the differences between the versions. But what they are evading answering is that, -- are any of the collections and add-ons that were released for AT 4 have or have not been updated for AT 5? It sound's like they haven't. It's all looking like what is new is the main core of AT 5 and everything else is a shell around the AT 4 collections. Sort of the same like the legacy components found in AT 4. They are the same thing that was in earlier verisons -- just in a AT 4 GUI.

The upgrade to AT 5 gives you a new GUI for your older purchases. IKM are evading the answer that any of the new "100+ re-done cabs" and VIR has anything to do with collections like Fender 2, Brian May or MessaBoogie e.t.c.

The upgrade is the 2 stomp boxes, 2 rooms, 5 "supposed" new amps, 1 cab, a drag and drop and IR import functionality and a new resizable GUI. Yeah, if you don't own anything, its a greta deal. But if you own the stuff, $150 USB is a lot for that. You are better off waiting for the sale down the road.

[jamcat]

I don't see the big deal here.
If you bought AmpliTube 4 MAX, then you got tonnes of gear at an extremely reduced price per bundle/model. If you then Buy AmpliTube 5 MAX, you get a tonne more gear at an extremely reduced price per bundle/model.

If you had been buying the bundles as they came out, you wouldn't need to buy AmpliTube 5 MAX to get all that gear, but you also would have spent considerably more total on those bundles individually than you would pay for AmpliTube 5 MAX.

So the complaint seems to be that you got a good deal then, and you're offered a good deal now, but someone else may get an even better deal, if they never bought AmpliTube in any form before (but own some other IK software that qualifies them for the Crossgrade.)

IK seems to be pretty accommodating, though. Usually these predictable complaints are met with some kind of remedy, such as an additional coupon for the affected people, or a free upgrade for users who purchased the previous version within a few weeks or month. So maybe they'll do that again.

Nope. The complaint is that they are not being straight forward as to what you are actually getting if you are a AT 4 user and you go out and buy AT 5 upgrade. Kind of crappy thing to do with people that are supposed to be your core customers and fans.

The spreadsheet lists all the differences between the versions. But what they are evading answering is that, -- are any of the collections and add-ons that were released for AT 4 have or have not been updated for AT 5? It sound's like they haven't. It's all looking like what is new is the main core of AT 5 and everything else is a shell around the AT 4 collections. Sort of the same like the legacy components found in AT 4. They are the same thing that was in earlier verisons -- just in a AT 4 GUI.

The upgrade to AT 5 gives you a new GUI for your older purchases. IKM are evading the answer that any of the new "100+ re-done cabs" and VIR has anything to do with collections like Fender 2, Brian May or MessaBoogie e.t.c.

The upgrade is the 2 stomp boxes, 2 rooms, 5 "supposed" new amps, 1 cab, a drag and drop and IR import functionality and a new resizable GUI. Yeah, if you don't own anything, its a greta deal. But if you own the stuff, $150 USB is a lot for that. You are better off waiting for the sale down the road.

AmpliTube 5 has an all new audio engine. It almost certainly is a completely new software framework from AmpliTube 3/4, from a development standpoint. It also looks like this new framework has new DSP that models interaction between the poweramp and cab, with "impedance matching" which I think is part of the across the board gain stage optimization that was applied to every model when they ported them to the new framework. The cabs and power amp also appear to be all new modeling and impulses, as they had to be rebuilt from the ground up in order to integrate them. This seems like it's what the "giant leap forward" for AmpliTube 5 is all about. All of the models, no matter how old they are, will benefit equally from this.

So I think we are going to see vast improvements to the sound quality of the legacy models. I expect they will be tighter , louder, more present, and more dynamic. But the mathematical curves that define the preamp and EQ sections will be the same, just scaled to gain, if that makes sense.

[franklyng79]

Nothing new there. That's been their "business model" for years.

taking this into consideration, it makes me wonder why people are surprised to discover shady behavior. like you said, it's not new, they must have noticed it before, but ignored it, perhaps?

compare to Dave Smith's humble admittance first batch of new Prophet-5s have wrong caps installed, resulting in hi freq drop, and that he's ready to go into great lengths to fix every synth sent back to him. that's unseen honesty and transparency in this day and age. but Dave's old timer, must be he's used to running business the old school way, meaning the right way.

[GoldieK]

Seems to me after looking what is offered to existing AT customers, any of the models, the best course if you have jam points and any interest in anything else in the offer is to buy the Total Max 2 Crossgrade. It's $69.99 for AT 5 SE with jam points, $104.99 for AT 5 with jam points, and $239.99 for AT 5 Max with jam points. Unless you can't live without May, Satriani and Leslie, you get everything else in the Total Max 2 Crossgrade. (It adds Fender 2, SVX 2, and Fulltone to AT 4 Max). So for $125.99 you get everything in Total Max 2 and AT 5 SE (it states in the AT 5 info that any package containing AT 4 products will get AT 5 SE for free with all of it's new features and improved models. Without any additional discounts for people who own most of the gear, this seems the only way to go for me.