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Apple Mac computers make jump to its own chips
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RugerioDelStereo RugerioDelStereo https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=466409
- KVRist
- 163 posts since 23 May, 2020
Apple still works with IBM, for instance on Watson. They have a complete section on their developer website devoted to it, ffs. This stuff is not as polarised and dramatic as you present it here.UltraJv wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:34 pm Apple ditched Nvidia some while back. citing poor manufacturing etc. Same shit they pull with everyone. Why would Apple do that? You could ask the same questions now. Apple soured the relationship with Nvidia, IBM , Intel and also Devs and users. Your question should be directed at Apple. They like pissing every one off. What goes round comes round. Intel work with everyone so they don't need to worry.
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machinesworking machinesworking https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8505
- KVRAF
- 8102 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
And here it comes:

- KVRAF
- 4110 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from A Swede Living in Budapest
Damn... so cool that we finally are here. Now we'll see if it's up to the hype.
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machinesworking machinesworking https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8505
- KVRAF
- 8102 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
Yeah completely agree. Everything is pointing to a 13" MacBook Pro and/or Air. I'm hoping that the hype is real and we see equivalent to 8 core 2.4ghz i9 specs in a 13" Macbook Pro without the heat and fan noise.
Even close would be fine for me, the 2012 MacBook Pro here is starting to show it's age, even opening it up and dust cleaning, installing new thermal paste on the CPU and GPU etc. it powers up fan wise using it as a VEP master.
Even close would be fine for me, the 2012 MacBook Pro here is starting to show it's age, even opening it up and dust cleaning, installing new thermal paste on the CPU and GPU etc. it powers up fan wise using it as a VEP master.
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- KVRian
- 751 posts since 9 Mar, 2001
So, I said "let's come back in two years" in this thread. 
Three years has now passed. So, what is the current situation? Does Apple still sell Intel based computers?
Apple has clearly been successful with Apple Silicon, their "locked down" and optimized architecture works great. Downside is that upgrading isn't a thing and the price is still very high.
I did not think AS would be this good. They are a lot better than I expected back in 2020. Esp. for CPU vs battery/power consumption. AS ain't winning the CPU performance race though (by far). AMD has been really good at that for the last couple of years now.
Three years has now passed. So, what is the current situation? Does Apple still sell Intel based computers?
Apple has clearly been successful with Apple Silicon, their "locked down" and optimized architecture works great. Downside is that upgrading isn't a thing and the price is still very high.
I did not think AS would be this good. They are a lot better than I expected back in 2020. Esp. for CPU vs battery/power consumption. AS ain't winning the CPU performance race though (by far). AMD has been really good at that for the last couple of years now.
- KVRAF
- 4066 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
Theu are king in performance per watt ....cnt wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:55 am So, I said "let's come back in two years" in this thread.
Three years has now passed. So, what is the current situation? Does Apple still sell Intel based computers?
Apple has clearly been successful with Apple Silicon, their "locked down" and optimized architecture works great. Downside is that upgrading isn't a thing and the price is still very high.
I did not think AS would be this good. They are a lot better than I expected back in 2020. Esp. for CPU vs battery/power consumption. AS ain't winning the CPU performance race though (by far). AMD has been really good at that for the last couple of years now.
Now I am hoping another big player will also jump into risc with high performance as target...
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- KVRian
- 751 posts since 9 Mar, 2001
Which big player would that be? Microsoft?Jac459 wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:32 am
Theu are king in performance per watt ....
Now I am hoping another big player will also jump into risc with high performance as target...
Windows 10/11 runs on Arm as well but pretty much no third party software available. A lot of users buys cheap Windows laptops and then they realize they cant run anything but Office on them. I guess MS could write x86 emulator like Rosetta though..?
- KVRAF
- 4066 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
Exactly... I hope it would be Microsoft... And yes, they need to create this virtualisation layer to avoid a too big shock...cnt wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:14 pmWhich big player would that be? Microsoft?Jac459 wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:32 am
Theu are king in performance per watt ....
Now I am hoping another big player will also jump into risc with high performance as target...
Windows 10/11 runs on Arm as well but pretty much no third party software available. A lot of users buys cheap Windows laptops and then they realize they cant run anything but Office on them. I guess MS could write x86 emulator like Rosetta though..?
The old surface books were insanely sexy and also plagued by thermal issues... It would be awesome to have them back with a proper what efficient CPU/GPU to back them...
