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Karbon L. Forms wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:24 pm I, for one, will never buy a non-MPE synth ever again.
So start a Poll and see how many people are with you. If only a handful of people have MPE capable hardware then it might not be worth developers spending time on it yet. If there are a lot of people who feel the same as you do then it might be worth developers adding support as it will increase sales.

I don't ever see myself buying MPE capable hardware so I really don't care. But if it doesn't delay the release of the plugin a significant amount of time then why not. :shrug:
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Markus Krause wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:36 am It is true that i wrote last year that I will not develop new synthesizers.
However I did not know that I would get infected by Corona in March and would have to stay at home for weeks. Instead of watching TV and playing games I started to built a fun-synth (mainly for myself)
Ever played No Man's Sky, Markus? As a musician: it's really inspirational - very Zen.

Frankly, some of the worlds that it generates now are really quite gorgeous. It's a great way to NOT work but still be engaged; in a good way (take a mental vacation on amazing planets).

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Karbon L. Forms wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:24 pmI, for one, will never buy a non-MPE synth ever again.
I, for one, couldn't care less whether or not a new synth has MPE, and I use a Roli Seaboard as my main MIDI controller. I only need those extra features for one part, at most, in any arrangement and I often don't need it at all. Seriously, why would you need MPE on a bass line? One or two MPE capable synths more than covers all my MPE needs. In fact, so far Equator does the job perfectly and it came with the Roli for free. I have other MPE capable synths but I've never used any of those features on them.
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Please make this synth exactly the way I want, with all the features I want, or I will express my dissatisfaction from now to eternity.

Sorry, couldn't resist. :P

I'm always interested in seeing what VSTs come out, even if the market is saturated, because there always seems to be ones that come along and still offer a little different flavor.
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+1 for skinning! Even though your GUI looks great as far as I can tell from the pic.

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Halonmusic wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:04 pm MPE is great and all, but it mostly, if not only is made for live/performance, not producing, sound design.
If one does not experience it hands on, its impossible to describe how much it is game changing especially for sound design!
If you have the static idea of sound design, to crate evolving sounds with lfo‘s and enevelopes triggered at a single point in time when you pressed that key in the past...
The first thing I have to get rid of in given presets are these boring lfo‘s which never have the correct timing...
The joy of a played vibrato vs. a predefined vibrato is a huge expressive difference etc...
MPE is live automation on individual voices for those who think its not for production and constructing their tracks. Each voice! If you think polyphonic aftertouch is a good idea, then you want MPE...

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MPE is completely overrated here in this forum. Would be really interesting, how many percent of all these people out there, making music with VST synths, do use this feature. I think a vast majority doesn‘t care about this.

A ROLI seaboard owner

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Only a minority of midi controllers on the market support MPE. And none at the budget range apart from the crappy roli blocks. I think pressure should put on manufacturers to support the standard not developers.
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SamDi wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:17 am MPE is completely overrated here in this forum. Would be really interesting, how many percent of all these people out there, making music with VST synths, do use this feature. I think a vast majority doesn‘t care about this.
I don't.
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Tj Shredder wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:22 am If one does not experience it hands on, its impossible to describe how much it is game changing especially for sound design!
Going to modular was a massive gamechanger for me -- but I recognize it's not for everyone, and I also don't scorn everything that isn't modular.

I've got a Polyend+Dreadbox Medusa which can act as an MPE controller... and I don't even have a MIDI cable plugged into it :hihi: I just use its pads to play the synth itself. And I use the pressure and X/Y pad positions very subtly if at all -- especially with tuning there is a fine line between "soulful" and "awful" :)

I also have a Microfreak, which I do sometimes use to control softsynths... but I don't really use its poly AT capabilities. Microfreak's pressure has no slew, and can be kind of abrupt if one isn't careful. I do sometimes assign pressure to synth params, but I feel that works better for mono or paraphonic parts.

So, yeah, I don't care about what does or doesn't support MPE. My personal criteria for buying a softsynth now is difficult and kind of nebulous: it has to bring me inspiration in a fresh way, compared to all the stuff I already have. But I'm curious about Warlock and look forward to listening/trying demos.

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I use VSTs since they came out, used to own hundrets of them over the years, now maybe 20-30 but tbh I am not even sure what MPE exactly is.... so.... I don't care for it.

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BONES wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:51 am
Karbon L. Forms wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:24 pmI, for one, will never buy a non-MPE synth ever again.
I, for one, couldn't care less whether or not a new synth has MPE, and I use a Roli Seaboard as my main MIDI controller. I only need those extra features for one part, at most, in any arrangement and I often don't need it at all. Seriously, why would you need MPE on a bass line? One or two MPE capable synths more than covers all my MPE needs. In fact, so far Equator does the job perfectly and it came with the Roli for free. I have other MPE capable synths but I've never used any of those features on them.
One or two MPE capable synths more than covers ALL my needs. I have Cypher2, Equator, Repro, Diva and the Bitwig Grid and I want for nothing. For simple basslines, I just don't use the MPE if I don't need it. I don't make shouty-beep-metal anyway. IF I do fancy a new synth, it has to have MPE. I am not the market though.
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I've been a software developer almost my entire career and I know how tough it is when a feature is very important relatively small percentage of your market - not a no-brainer, since development resources are not finite. If I used MPE, I don't know how important it would be to me that every synth has it; it's obviously a better fit with some synths than others.

Heck, I don't miss velocity on my subtractive monosynths (even in Repro-1, where it's available, I hardly use it)- the brilliance of legato mode means there's a ton of expressiveness to be had. But I'd miss it terribly on other synths and especially physical modeling instruments (and I used an ARP Omni as a rudimentary "piano" replacement at if you want to talk awful).

Still looks cool and one day I'm going to pull the plug and grab some Tone2 synths - I'm kinda wishing for an update to Gladiator's GUI 'cause that's an interesting beast!

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JoeCat wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 5:06 pm ...
I'm kinda wishing for an update to Gladiator's GUI 'cause that's an interesting beast!
Positive +1

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For Gladiator3 the GUI has been enlarged. The update is free for all Gladiator2 users. It can be downloaded here:

https://www.tone2.com/download.html
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