RapidComposer v4 beta feedback and discussion (locked)

[BluGenes]

it's a pattern.. so, maybe .. Bass Pattern ..

[lulukom]

+1.
Yes, the program has become quite large and complex)) .. And I don't remember if there is a command like "cut all overlapping notes"?

[sj1]

Bass Ptn Drug 01 ?

[lovemusic15]

suggestions? Maybe "Synth Bass Rhythm"? how about ( retro rhythm)

Would it not be possible to have a feature called lock rhythm where every generator plays the same rhythm as each other because most modern music follows the same rhythm for each part (bass ,melody, lead)
so for example once you find a rhythm you like you just lock it and every new generator will follow that exact rhythm.

[lulukom]

+1

[BluGenes]

still putting the bug list together, but, I have a question... Did you purposely leave out the ability to record midi from a midi keyboard in the melody editor (tab)?

Also, a quick one, it's in my list too, but, melody editor lacks a way to "clear all" for the workspace, like you added to the phrase editor pressing the big X.. Suggested that if you do add this, put the X away from the transport controls next to the undo and redo buttons and add an are you sure popup.. and add the popup to the phrase editor too, for safety..

[BluGenes]

While we are on the subject of renaming, I propose that the Melody Editor Generator be renamed to the Melody Pattern Generator and leave the workspace tab named Melody Editor.

[musicdevelopments]

Yes, the program has become quite large and complex)) .. And I don't remember if there is a command like "cut all overlapping notes"?

There is no such command. It is best to avoid overlapping notes. Think of them as "undefined behaviour".

[musicdevelopments]

suggestions? Maybe "Synth Bass Rhythm"? how about ( retro rhythm)

That is the winner!
(I was not clear enough: it is a rhythm generator that can create countless patterns of the same style, not a specific rhythm pattern.)

Would it not be possible to have a feature called lock rhythm where every generator plays the same rhythm as each other because most modern music follows the same rhythm for each part (bass ,melody, lead)
so for example once you find a rhythm you like you just lock it and every new generator will follow that exact rhythm.

This is an interesting request.
I want to suggest dragging rhythm (Alt-drag phrases) and dropping it on multiple selected phrases. Select "Replace Generator Rhythm" from the menu. You can replace the rhythm in many phrase generators in one simple operation.
I realized dragging phrases as rhythm stopped working, so I fixed that in beta12 (in about an hour).

Thanks!
Attila

[lulukom]

There is no such command. It is best to avoid overlapping notes. Think of them as "undefined behaviour".

It is a pity that there is no such command .. it is in all DAW .. Really all users are satisfied with this?

[musicdevelopments]

I want to further improve the Melody Editor, maybe with MIDI recording.

While we are on the subject of renaming, I propose that the Melody Editor Generator be renamed to the Melody Pattern Generator and leave the workspace tab named Melody Editor.

I am not sure... The two names are the same for good reason: the Melody Editor phrase encapsulates all settings of the "Melody Editor" tab context. So it is basically the "flattened" Melody Editor tab (not sure if that is the right word).

Thanks,
Attila

[musicdevelopments]

RapidComposer v4.0b12 is available!

There are LOTS of improvements in this update.

Improvements:

• Fingerpicking generator rewritten from scratch for better results, with note selector and rhythm input
• Generic Generator revamped with note selector added
• Bass Generator revamped with note selector added
• Turn off running playback when a playback is started somewhere else in the program
• When phrases dropped to a track, all phrases are deselected in other tracks
• 'Bass Rhythm' generator renamed to 'Retro Rhythm'
• Deadlock eliminated during phrase preview in the inspector
• Fixed dragging rhythm and dropping to other phrases (using Alt-drag)
• Note selector fixes

[BluGenes]

I want to further improve the Melody Editor, maybe with MIDI recording.

While we are on the subject of renaming, I propose that the Melody Editor Generator be renamed to the Melody Pattern Generator and leave the workspace tab named Melody Editor.

I am not sure... The two names are the same for good reason: the Melody Editor phrase encapsulates all settings of the "Melody Editor" tab context. So it is basically the "flattened" Melody Editor tab (not sure if that is the right word).

Thanks,
Attila

All so true, but, when I think of an editor, I think of the ability to edit. In this case, the generator holds all the properties that is needed for the edit. As an example, note editing mode in RC, or, in Reaper, when you press the E key on an midi item lets you edit in place. It is the idea that I see as an editor, or editing state.

Just trying to look at it from a new user perspective and I am trying to decide how to explain this in the user guide.

I was thinking of just lines of continuity...

[musicdevelopments]

OK, I can be persuaded. I hope the rename is OK for everyone.
So the new name should be Melody Pattern? Or Motive Generator? Or Melotive Panerator? I am so bad at naming things.
When you double-click on that phrase, the Melody Editor opens.

[sj1]

Re: Naming. Some thoughts.

The above comments all refer to items found in the Phrase Browser. Many of the items found there are named 'XYZ Generator' some are not. So, my first thought is: does the term "Generator" actually have a consistent meaning? If so, then "Generator" should appear in all the names where it correctly applies (and otherwise not).

Next consideration - is the thing created in a track when you drag items from the Phrase Browser in fact a "phrase" in all cases? Which leads to the question: Does the term "Phrase" actually have a consistent meaning? If so, then the nomenclature "phrase" can either be explicit or implied, but should be -one or the other- consistently in all cases. If not, that's something that needs to be ironed out conceptually and wrt. documentation.

Since some of the items open in the Phrase Editor, and some do not, there is a 3rd question: where does any given thing open when double-clicked? Again, nomenclature can either carry this information or not, but should be -one or the other- consistently in all cases (IMO).

Offhand, it doesn't seem to me that being silent in the nomenclature about where something opens when double-clicked is much of a problem. After all, as long as the double-click open the thing to where it can be manipulated, what else is necessary?

Where a given thing opens (i.e. Phrase Editor, Melody Editor, elsewhere) can be stated directly in any docs and in pop-up help. I'd tend to think this would suffice, but alternatively, where a thing opens could be in parens (or shown via special sign) after the rest of the thing's name.