Vital - Released

[Lucastyle]

FWIW, I would be willing to pay more ($100, $120, etc.) for a non-subscription version with all the perks. In my household we have a policy against anything subscription-based except essentials, so I expect to buy Pro. But if there was a way to get the perks without a sub it would be awesome

Second that

Yeah what I'll probably end up doing is for things like new plugins is giving them to subscribers and pro users who bought it in the last year or so. Just need to figure out how to communicate that.

Also people like me who live in a country where the credit card needs to be activated personally before each online buy makes it an absolute pain to have subscription, so I would also like to have another option with all the perks paid up front.

[Hink]

thanx vurt

[mdstudio]

Is it the 24th yet?

[Hink]

nov 24th was the day I married my first wife, and it was the day after thanksgiving...thinking about suing over the term black friday...surely I earned the rights to claim that as black friday...apologies for locking the wrong thread...vurt was cool and hit report...he is the hero here ad it worked because that's the quickest way to get things like that done...I get emails for reports

[middle_color]

Vital is a spectral warping wavetable synth. Coming November 24th

Release details: https://vital.audio

Congratulations!
Fantastic pricing scheme, however description could be better: i had read the whole thread to understand. It is hard to believe that one can get such solid synth for free.

[l33t4e]

Looks and sounds great I'll likely buy - I look forward to it

Is it me though or does subscription look better bet than Pro ? As don't seem to get the access to new apps/features with Pro and your 5 a month on subscription gives you 16 months for same price as Pro

 

Looks like it. However after 16 months of the subscription you still have to continue paying indefinitely to keep using the plugin. For example, it's $300 if you plan to use the plugin for the next 5 years on a subscription.

 

You don't need the subscription to use Vital. The subscription gives you access to perks and let's you use the money you spend on the subscription to buy more presets/content. I'll also be dropping any new plugins I make in the future to subscribers (and possibly pro users) first

You can cancel anytime and still use Vital and all the presets you have.

So theoretically someone can pay for 3 months ($15) then cancel and they keep the 400 presets? (assuming subscription gets everything Pro version has)

[l33t4e]

BTW, I would totally do a rent-to-own for the pro version if there is such a thing. Even though I could get the free version!

[AdvancedFollower]

Looks and sounds great I'll likely buy - I look forward to it

Is it me though or does subscription look better bet than Pro ? As don't seem to get the access to new apps/features with Pro and your 5 a month on subscription gives you 16 months for same price as Pro

 

Looks like it. However after 16 months of the subscription you still have to continue paying indefinitely to keep using the plugin. For example, it's $300 if you plan to use the plugin for the next 5 years on a subscription.

 

You don't need the subscription to use Vital. The subscription gives you access to perks and let's you use the money you spend on the subscription to buy more presets/content. I'll also be dropping any new plugins I make in the future to subscribers (and possibly pro users) first

You can cancel anytime and still use Vital and all the presets you have.

So theoretically someone can pay for 3 months ($15) then cancel and they keep the 400 presets? (assuming subscription gets everything Pro version has)

Yeah, it's a bit unclear. Does the subscription version come with the 400 presets from Pro? If so, why not just subscribe for $5, cancel and get $80 of value?

[dionenoid]

Just make the synth one fee. This pricing scheme is killing your own business before it even started.

Nr. 1 rule in sales : Keep it simple, stupid.

[Dalle]

Just make the synth one fee. This pricing scheme is killing your own business before it even started.

Nr. 1 rule in sales : Keep it simple, stupid.

Wow. It already is free, which is incredibly generous. You can pay more for a few extra things, and to support the developer.

[Paree]

Just make the synth one fee. This pricing scheme is killing your own business before it even started.

Nr. 1 rule in sales : Keep it simple, stupid.

Surely, you know better than a guy who spent 3+ years creating this right?
Sometimes making money isn't the only thing that matters. The pricing is great, whats not great is your aggression.

I am also a person who likes open source projects, but i am also a software developer. It pisses me off when people misuse the generosity of the developer. When a developer is being so generous to give a complete synth for free, its only right for you to support the dev by purchasing the full version if you can afford it. The last thing a person likes to hear after being so generous is to get advised on how to do business.

[mtytel]

Looks and sounds great I'll likely buy - I look forward to it

Is it me though or does subscription look better bet than Pro ? As don't seem to get the access to new apps/features with Pro and your 5 a month on subscription gives you 16 months for same price as Pro

 

Looks like it. However after 16 months of the subscription you still have to continue paying indefinitely to keep using the plugin. For example, it's $300 if you plan to use the plugin for the next 5 years on a subscription.

 

You don't need the subscription to use Vital. The subscription gives you access to perks and let's you use the money you spend on the subscription to buy more presets/content. I'll also be dropping any new plugins I make in the future to subscribers (and possibly pro users) first

You can cancel anytime and still use Vital and all the presets you have.

So theoretically someone can pay for 3 months ($15) then cancel and they keep the 400 presets? (assuming subscription gets everything Pro version has)

No the website will be more clear on release. To clarify now though, the subscription is like a 'build your own preset library' type of deal. You get the base pack, (plus an extra subscription only pack) then you can use the subscription payment to add banks from the store.

[vurt]

Just make the synth one fee. This pricing scheme is killing your own business before it even started.

Nr. 1 rule in sales : Keep it simple, stupid.

Wow. It already is free, which is incredibly generous. You can pay more for a few extra things, and to support the developer.

he said one fee, not free.

hes not looking for a handout, hes telling the dev he could ask for more

[Dalle]

Just make the synth one fee. This pricing scheme is killing your own business before it even started.

Nr. 1 rule in sales : Keep it simple, stupid.

Wow. It already is free, which is incredibly generous. You can pay more for a few extra things, and to support the developer.

he said one fee, not free.

hes not looking for a handout, hes telling the dev he could ask for more

Oops, sorry about that. Next time I’ll read more carefully befpre getting mad

[dionenoid]

Just make the synth one fee. This pricing scheme is killing your own business before it even started.

Nr. 1 rule in sales : Keep it simple, stupid.

Surely, you know better than a guy who spent 3+ years creating this right?
Sometimes making money isn't the only thing that matters. The pricing is great, whats not great is your aggression.

What aggression ? The KISS principle is the nr. 1 rule in sales, and actually in music production too.
Keep It Simple, Stupid = KISS.