Live 11 - Many bitter comments on their Facebook
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- KVRian
- 798 posts since 17 Nov, 2015 from Yuma
geez the amount of humorless braindeads on kvr is mindstaggering...
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- KVRAF
- 5575 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
I think that’s done By assigning a Midi controller knob to the Clip Gain and then just pick any clip in the arrangement and adjust the knob.antic604 wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:05 pmWhere / how? I've spent 5 minutes yesterday trying all clip edges with all modifier combinations I could think ofjonljacobi wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:50 pmLive has clip gain. Are you talking about visually on the clip in the timeline? As to audio editing, I missed that at first until I realized you can do basically the same thing on the timeline, and with the aforementioned clip gain.![]()
No idea it that works with v11. I’m out for the weekend.
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- KVRAF
- 2989 posts since 5 Nov, 2014
Semantics...steffensen wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:07 amBut they don't. If you pre-order, money isn't drawn from your account until it's released.Passing Bye wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:13 am Point is to collect update money from excited upcoming beta testers and give unimpressed ones something to feel excited about.
- Banned
- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
No. He's technically correct. The best kind of correct. You have 14 days to resign from the pre-order and even if you didn't, you can simply not pay and not upgrade. They won't drag you to court over this, I don't thinkPassing Bye wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:49 pmSemantics...steffensen wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:07 amBut they don't. If you pre-order, money isn't drawn from your account until it's released.Passing Bye wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:13 am Point is to collect update money from excited upcoming beta testers and give unimpressed ones something to feel excited about.
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- KVRAF
- 2989 posts since 5 Nov, 2014
More semantics...antic604 wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:58 pmNo. He's technically correct. The best kind of correct. You have 14 days to resign from the pre-order and even if you didn't, you can simply not pay and not upgrade. They won't drag you to court over this, I don't thinkPassing Bye wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:49 pmSemantics...steffensen wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:07 amBut they don't. If you pre-order, money isn't drawn from your account until it's released.Passing Bye wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:13 am Point is to collect update money from excited upcoming beta testers and give unimpressed ones something to feel excited about.
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- KVRAF
- 12105 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
You don't have to pre order to use the betaPassing Bye wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:00 pmMore semantics...antic604 wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:58 pmNo. He's technically correct. The best kind of correct. You have 14 days to resign from the pre-order and even if you didn't, you can simply not pay and not upgrade. They won't drag you to court over this, I don't thinkPassing Bye wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:49 pmSemantics...steffensen wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:07 amBut they don't. If you pre-order, money isn't drawn from your account until it's released.Passing Bye wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:13 am Point is to collect update money from excited upcoming beta testers and give unimpressed ones something to feel excited about.
They don’t take the money when you preorder, you just get the sale price.
They are the facts that make you assertion incorrect.
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- KVRAF
- 5575 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
PayPal doesn’t charge for “semantics”.Passing Bye wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:00 pmMore semantics...antic604 wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:58 pmNo. He's technically correct. The best kind of correct. You have 14 days to resign from the pre-order and even if you didn't, you can simply not pay and not upgrade. They won't drag you to court over this, I don't thinkPassing Bye wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:49 pmSemantics...steffensen wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:07 amBut they don't. If you pre-order, money isn't drawn from your account until it's released.Passing Bye wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:13 am Point is to collect update money from excited upcoming beta testers and give unimpressed ones something to feel excited about.
My PayPal account it’s not showing any activity regarding the preorder placed at Ableton.
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- KVRAF
- 2989 posts since 5 Nov, 2014
Order, pre-order, get your money now, get your money after 14 days, get your money after 140 days, get your money with discount now or whenever, they are ultimately getting your money, so it's semantics.
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- KVRAF
- 12105 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Yes, at some point in time if someone chooses to update, Ableton will make some money. That’s sort of the point of a business.
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- KVRAF
- 5575 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
Take my money? They are not “taking”.Passing Bye wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:49 pm Order, pre-order, get your money now, get your money after 14 days, get your money after 140 days, get your money with discount now or whenever, they are ultimately getting your money, so it's semantics.
You are spinning your semantics and at each spin you are wrong.
Stop spinning
I’m paying for a product I want to purchase and I’m getting a discounted price not even charged until the day it’s released when other will have to pay full price and be charged at the same time as me.
Definitely wrong according to you. Man, I hope you are not running a business because you don’t have a sense of negotiation whatsoever.
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- KVRAF
- 1526 posts since 23 Feb, 2017
Welcome!anttimaatteri wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:22 pm geez the amount of humorless braindeads on kvr is mindstaggering...
Signatures are so early 2000s.
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- KVRAF
- 2989 posts since 5 Nov, 2014
Where did I say that, what are you on about, do you even have a clue about context of my response before steffensen started nitpicking about semantics or you just enjoy arguing with people for the sake of it?liquidsound wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:09 pm I’m paying for a product I want to purchase and I’m getting a discounted price not even charged until the day it’s released when other will have to pay full price and be charged at the same time as me.
Definitely wrong according to you.
I don't, we actually have guy that do our business and customer relations.Man, I hope you are not running a business because you don’t have a sense of negotiation whatsoever.
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- KVRAF
- 5575 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
Read your own post.Passing Bye wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:28 pmWhere did I say that, what are you on about, do you even have a clue about context of my response before steffensen started nitpicking about semantics or you just enjoy arguing with people for the sake of it?liquidsound wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:09 pm I’m paying for a product I want to purchase and I’m getting a discounted price not even charged until the day it’s released when other will have to pay full price and be charged at the same time as me.
Definitely wrong according to you.
I don't, we actually have guy that do our business and customer relations.Man, I hope you are not running a business because you don’t have a sense of negotiation whatsoever.
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- KVRAF
- 2989 posts since 5 Nov, 2014
Very clever response, have a good one.liquidsound wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:40 pmRead your own post.Passing Bye wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:28 pmWhere did I say that, what are you on about, do you even have a clue about context of my response before steffensen started nitpicking about semantics or you just enjoy arguing with people for the sake of it?liquidsound wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:09 pm I’m paying for a product I want to purchase and I’m getting a discounted price not even charged until the day it’s released when other will have to pay full price and be charged at the same time as me.
Definitely wrong according to you.
I don't, we actually have guy that do our business and customer relations.Man, I hope you are not running a business because you don’t have a sense of negotiation whatsoever.
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- KVRAF
- 5575 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
Passing Bye wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:42 pmVery clever response, have a good one.liquidsound wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:40 pmRead your own post.Passing Bye wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:28 pmWhere did I say that, what are you on about, do you even have a clue about context of my response before steffensen started nitpicking about semantics or you just enjoy arguing with people for the sake of it?liquidsound wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:09 pm I’m paying for a product I want to purchase and I’m getting a discounted price not even charged until the day it’s released when other will have to pay full price and be charged at the same time as me.
Definitely wrong according to you.
I don't, we actually have guy that do our business and customer relations.Man, I hope you are not running a business because you don’t have a sense of negotiation whatsoever.![]()
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