KVR Audio

SamDi · Post by **SamDi** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:28 am

It's on sale now for 389€, which would be a steal. OK, it would be my 4th DAW (just these counted, which I am using from time to time, not the other corpses on my SDD

)

Do I need it? - No
Is it GAS? - Yeeees
Does it help me? - Maybe

What are your experiences? Would it add some additional value to me? I like this pattern approach, and the synths are awesome (Hamor!!!) but am yet demoing, so don't have an overall impression yet.

What shall I do?

P.S.: Please no haters and flamewars. Every DAW is awesome!!! Just constructive hints.
P.P.S: Yes, I tried Reaper (and use it)

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:42 am

I was in the same boat a week ago. Installed the demo twice, tried to make some tune each time, loved some aspects of FL and hated many, MANY more. It's an awesome deal, but you have to comit to using it, since you can't use all of those plugins elsewhere. In my case announcement of Live 11 sealed the deal, because I'd rather get the upgrade there, than buy a new DAW that I don't really like.

Oh, and since I'm in Europe the actual price of the All Plugins - with tax - was like EUR480, compred to say FL Studio Producers Edition at audiodeluxe.com at USD250 (EUR210) incl. current -15% discount: https://www.audiodeluxe.com/products/im ... ure-bundle

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:45 am

SamDi wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:28 am P.P.S: Yes, I tried Reaper (and use it)

And no, I'm not taking the bait

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:56 am

I would buy it but wouldn't touch it till FL 21 is released, the whole DAW will be overhauled(almost all of its aspects gonna work differently) so not worth to learn it at this moment (luckily it has lifetime free update)

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:05 am

antic604 wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:42 am ... since you can't use all of those plugins elsewhere...

it's not so simple practically everybody starts using FL from not the official source and buy the needed plugins one by one so the All Plugins Edition is a very good starter pack to able to check what plugins will be used on daily basis (I have the Signature edition and bought Gross Beat, Harmor, Transient Processor, Transistor Bass later in plugins edition later one by one)

ps. if you are on mac the plugins can't be reached anyway in the most cases

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:11 am

xbitz wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:56 am I would buy it but wouldn't touch it till FL 21 is released, the whole DAW will be overhauled(almost all of its aspects gonna work differently) so not worth to learn it at this moment (luckily it has lifetime free update)

Is this a fact? I might be interested if it's true. Can you point to any news/discussion that would indicate this?

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:12 am

xbitz wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:05 am
antic604 wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:42 am ... since you can't use all of those plugins elsewhere...
it's not so simple practically everybody starts using FL from not the official source and buy the needed plugins one by one so the All Plugins Edition is a very good starter pack to able to check what plugins will be used on daily basis (I have the Signature edition and bought Gross Beat, Harmor, Transient Processor, Transistor Bass later in plugins edition later one by one)

Well, I won't spend EUR480 to find out which plugins to buy

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:18 am

^^^ normally it would be true but at this moment there is only a EUR100 diff between Signature and All Plugins one

in normal circumstances... I would start Signature + Harmor

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:21 am

xbitz wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:18 am^^^ normally it would be true but at this moment there is only a EUR100 diff between Signature and All Plugins one

Read my post - it's 270EUR difference if (like me) you're in Europe.

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:22 am

antic604 wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:11 am
xbitz wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:56 am I would buy it but wouldn't touch it till FL 21 is released, the whole DAW will be overhauled(almost all of its aspects gonna work differently) so not worth to learn it at this moment (luckily it has lifetime free update)
Is this a fact? I might be interested if it's true. Can you point to any news/discussion that would indicate this?

check the developer post (the ones with the red nickname) from here https://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic. ... 0#p1545431

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:24 am

antic604 wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:21 am
xbitz wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:18 am^^^ normally it would be true but at this moment there is only a EUR100 diff between Signature and All Plugins one
Read my post - it's 270EUR difference if (like me) you're in Europe.

that's still 2 plugins diff. Harmor and something

https://www.image-line.com/fl-studio/plugins/harmor/ + ?

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:37 am

xbitz wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:22 am check the developer post (the ones with the red nickname) from here https://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic. ... 0#p1545431

Thanks. However what I find wonderful, is devs' engagement in discussion. I can only imagine how great it would be to have Claes, Nicholas and Alexandre (and others I don't know) participating in Bitwig's forum

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:00 pm

yepp, the mixer track colorization which is used in the FL mixer has been suggested by me a couple of years ago, created a mock using one of Photoshop's blend mode can't remember which one ... they wanted to use simple colors originally which looked like s*

so nice to able to talk with them directly

gothca ... man 5years ago, https://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic. ... 5#p1031620 picture was lost in hyperspace

but it was accepted by them, it was the first edition https://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic. ... 0#p1031950 good old times

SamDi · Post by **SamDi** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:01 pm

antic604 wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:42 am Oh, and since I'm in Europe the actual price of the All Plugins - with tax - was like EUR480, compred to say FL Studio Producers Edition at audiodeluxe.com at USD250 (EUR210) incl. current -15% discount: https://www.audiodeluxe.com/products/im ... ure-bundle

Oh no - you are right. Just put it into checkout, and then VAT was added. How silly is that? Now it‘s 450€ and beyond my pain limit. Smaller editions, than this All Plugins Bundle are no alternative for me somehow

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:09 pm

SamDi wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:01 pm...and then VAT was added. How silly is that?

Well, if it doesn't add value to your DAW collection, then why are you even considering it?

Should I get FL Studio All Plugins Edition?