Apple announces new Mac Mini, Air + 13" MBP featuring their own M1 chip.

[UltraJv]

Hows Logic on the ipad/iphone?

Well, its small sibling Garageband is doing a most excellent job.

[Sascha Franck]

Hows Logic on the ipad/iphone?

Well, its small sibling Garageband is doing a most excellent job.

I don't know what's so funny about that, seriously. GB and Logic songs are interchangeable. 1:1 from GB to Logic, partially the other way around (of course GB is lacking of some plugins, so those tracks are rendered to audio).
I don't own any iOS device anymore right now, but this is a pretty great feature of the Apple-ecosystem.

[UltraJv]

Hows Logic on the ipad/iphone?

Well, its small sibling Garageband is doing a most excellent job.

I don't know what's so funny about that, seriously. GB and Logic songs are interchangeable. 1:1 from GB to Logic, partially the other way around (of course GB is lacking of some plugins, so those tracks are rendered to audio).
I don't own any iOS device anymore right now, but this is a pretty great feature of the Apple-ecosystem.

It was just a smile.

[Ploki]

Separate markets. Screen size dictates how useful things are. Apps are different also. Hows Logic on the ipad/iphone?

yes they are. One is growing the other is shrinking. Presumably because majority doesn't care about expandability, small SSD storage and no repairability. Or better, because none of this is an issue.
I'm in the power user segment and I expand just fine via Thunderbolt, storage and otherwise.
Repairability is not an issue if things don't break.

re: logic
Isn't it obvious apple is trying to merge ecosystems?
Logic's gonna run great on ipad sooner rather than later.
I'm not looking forward to that merge, but it makes your point moot.
Also MS has been forever trying to merge the two.

[UltraJv]

Separate markets. Screen size dictates how useful things are. Apps are different also. Hows Logic on the ipad/iphone?

yes they are. One is growing the other is shrinking. Presumably because majority doesn't care about expandability, small SSD storage and no repairability. Or better, because none of this is an issue.
I'm in the power user segment and I expand just fine via Thunderbolt, storage and otherwise.
Repairability is not an issue if things don't break.

re: logic
Isn't it obvious apple is trying to merge ecosystems?
Logic's gonna run great on ipad sooner rather than later.
I'm not looking forward to that merge, but it makes your point moot.
Also MS has been forever trying to merge the two.

They are behaving strangely. The new Macs dont have touch so its not clear that they are merging.

[Markus Krause]

mobile market has grown for many years, his true.
however the-disease-which-i-will-not-name has drastically changed things within only a few months.
homeoffice and classic desktops are trending. And sadly these times will not change soon.
desktop + big screen + ergonomy is the new future

you can clearly see this in the high prices for desktop cpus and their availability

[Ploki]

They are behaving strangely. The new Macs dont have touch so its not clear that they are merging.

Can't argue with that. On one hand they were promoting iPad as a "computer" not so long ago, now they released a MBA that absolutely wrecks it in every possible scenario sans the pencil and is cheaper.
The Mac Pro also... why release a heavy-lifter a year before switching to a completely new architecture is beyond me

[Sascha Franck]

The new Macs dont have touch so its not clear that they are merging.

And they likely won't. Apple's strategy will rather be to sell you an iPad along with, say, your Macbook, serving as a secondary monitor and/or touch surface. In fact, it's working like that already for certain parts. And it's really excellent. Just quite expensive.

[Sascha Franck]

But then, maybe we will indeed see a convertible Macbook coming from Apple. I wouldn't say it's too likely (as that would cannibalize iPad sales), but it's not all *that* unlikely, especially given that a convertible is missing in their portfolio.

[chagzuki]

For artists/illustrators the Microsoft Surface Studio gives an indication of one direction things will go in. Apple's pen tech is the best/has been the best for several years, so I'm assuming at some stage the iMac will morph into something akin to the Surface Studio. The iPad is amazing for artists, and larger form factors would be amazing also.

[agharta]

The Mac Pro also... why release a heavy-lifter a year before switching to a completely new architecture is beyond me

That will very likely be the last model they transition to ARM due to how much more complex it is to scale up to that level of performance.
So as they have stated around 2 years for the transition, that will have had a 3 year production span which isn't bad.
Otherwise they'd have been left with the previous design competing against Threadripper.
The current Mac Pro was already totally outclassed on release in many important metrics, so imagine how the previous one will look in 2 years time versus 5th generation Threadripper.
That would be much more of a failure than M1 is a success as the gulf would be much more dramatic.
Apple know what they are doing.

[Ploki]

True

[Passing Bye]

We're running in circles already, but:
M1 absolutely slays within the same power envelope - no competition whatsoever.
The sheer fact that you can put a 10W M1 in the same column as 95W TDP chips is telling.

Exactly, didn't saw anybody actually comparing these to other laptops, it's impressive that you can have beautiful ultra thin laptop that runs cold as ice and have performance similar as similarly priced PC desktop, dunno, I rejected idea of building Ryzen 3600 desktop because it doesn't make any sense performance or budget wise, now debating with myself should I get Mini or Macbook, finally having a laptop isn't sacrifice in performance or budget.

[Daags]

Apple know what they are doing.

[revvy]

desktop + big screen + ergonomy is the new future

For some of us, it was always the case anyway, virus or otherwise. iMacs for me.

Now where are my glasses...