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BONES · Post by **BONES** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:09 am

himalaya wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:50 amI use Dettol wipes. A gentle swipe does wonders. Wait a moment for the surface to dry and it's ready to play.

You are such a consumer. Next time try water, a damp cloth, and see if it does a worse job. All I do is dust mine and it comes up like new. But my point was that he was cleaning it to try and get it to work properly, that's not something you can do with a wet-wipe. You gotta read this stuff in context.

LoveEnigma18 wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:45 pm
himalaya wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:36 pm The future looks bright. Updates will be coming....
Happy to know this.

Gullible much? How the hell would himalaya know whether there will be updates or not? IN my experience there are updates but they are few and far between. i.e. Probably three or four very minor updates in the two years or so since I bought mine, up to this new version.

And of course, my main concern with GUI about font text and knob sizes being on the smaller side.

Which, of course, is purely in your head, as shown here with Equator 2 at its default GUI size -

Even at its smallest possible size, it's still about the same as everything else -

As you can see, the GUI - knobs and text - are probably bigger at the default size than most other softsynths. Plus, of course, the GUI is resizable - I can stretch out beyond full screen - so how anyone could have a problem with it is beyond my ken. These images also show how nicely spaced everything is, which would probably be handy for use with a touchscreen. But, of course, whingers gonna whinge.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:15 am

Cause Himalaya's day job is.....

https://roli.com/team

rsp

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:18 am

No idea. However, if you look in Roli connect, there is an Equator 2 update there, ready to download and install.

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:06 am

BONES wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:09 am
himalaya wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:50 amI use Dettol wipes. A gentle swipe does wonders. Wait a moment for the surface to dry and it's ready to play.
You are such a consumer. Next time try water, a damp cloth, and see if it does a worse job. All I do is dust mine and it comes up like new. But my point was that he was cleaning it to try and get it to work properly, that's not something you can do with a wet-wipe. You gotta read this stuff in context.

Not a consumer, but a pragmatist. I've been cleaning Seaboards since 2012, even before a single Seaboard was released to the public. I've used all sorts of methods to clean the silicone surface of the Seaboard. Nothing is better than a wet-wipe like Dettol. It picks up all particles, dust, skin flakes with ease and no mess. The disinfecting factor is also beneficial, especially in this day and age. Unlike on a midi keyboard, we slide, glide, massage the silicone surface of a Seaboard, so it is good to disinfect this surface.

One wet-wipe would clean loads of Seaboards at NAMM and MusicMesse. I had to clean lots of them.

But I see what you mean, he wanted to clean the Seaboard as part of some 'calibration' process. I missed that.

Ploki · Post by **Ploki** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:14 am

I kinda stopped trusting ROLI unfortunately.
Max Blocks objects have had some serious (normal operation breaking) bugs since forever.

I still like my blocks and rise and will continue to use it, but i'm on the lookout for an alternative MPE controller.

I appreciate that Equator 2 is a paid upgrade and a completely new synth, but having the same upgrade price as someone who bought a single lightpad is just insulting, since i bought Rise25 on pretty much day1, have two lightpads and a seaboard block.

I also don't like the direction they're currently taking - i just did a clean wipe of my system and didn't even install Equator 1 I do have. Big release being a LUMI software update is just disappointing. ""studio edition"". whatever.

LoveEnigma18 · Post by **LoveEnigma18** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:19 am

BONES wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:09 am But, of course, whingers gonna whinge.

Looks like I was giving respect to the wrong person.

Again, wanna repeat for you: font text and knob sizes are on the smaller side. There's a lot of wasted space when the GUI is maximized.

It is a genuine feedback and not a complaint. I don't care what others feel about it.

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:48 pm

Are you blind or stupid? I just showed you a bunch of images that show that Equator's text is larger than most other synths, as well as being easier to read, and that their knobs are about the same size.

himalaya wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:06 amUnlike on a midi keyboard, we slide, glide, massage the silicone surface of a Seaboard, so it is good to disinfect this surface.

Not unless you plan to serve dinner on one. The only contamination on my Seaboard comes from my hands, disinfecting it will gain nothing. Like I said - such a consumer.

Anyhoo, if you work for Roli, why the f**k can't I buy a Lumi Keys? What's the difference between posting to a US city and one in another country. All they are doing is pissing people off who want to give them money. It's stupid. Not responding to my support requests on the matter is even more infuriating. And if they're not going to sell me one, stop sending me mail-outs begging me to buy one.

Now on to important things - anyone else having this problem?

I've installed all the sound packs, why can't it find instruments and wavetables? This happens on most of the presets, I'd estimate at least 4 out of 5, probably more like 9 out of 10.

p1afff · Post by **p1afff** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:28 pm

BONES wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:48 pm
Now on to important things - anyone else having this problem?

I've installed all the sound packs, why can't it find instruments and wavetables? This happens on most of the presets, I'd estimate at least 4 out of 5, probably more like 9 out of 10.

I remember having it. IIRC, you have to go to Roli Connect, click on Equator 2 so you can see the Libraries that remain to be downloaded for the full install.

WasteLand · Post by **WasteLand** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:36 pm

himalaya wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:06 am
Not a consumer, but a pragmatist. I've been cleaning Seaboards since 2012, even before a single Seaboard was released to the public. I've used all sorts of methods to clean the silicone surface of the Seaboard. Nothing is better than a wet-wipe like Dettol. It picks up all particles, dust, skin flakes with ease and no mess. The disinfecting factor is also beneficial, especially in this day and age. Unlike on a midi keyboard, we slide, glide, massage the silicone surface of a Seaboard, so it is good to disinfect this surface.

One wet-wipe would clean loads of Seaboards at NAMM and MusicMesse. I had to clean lots of them.

But I see what you mean, he wanted to clean the Seaboard as part of some 'calibration' process. I missed that.

thanks for the dettol tip, a clean surface (the disinfecting factor perhaps..), but to play on a clean surface place, simply better. also no problem with lightpad M blocks, to clean them this way, although they are less sensitive for this.

Angus_FX · Post by **Angus_FX** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:05 pm

Again, wanna repeat for you: font text and knob sizes are on the smaller side. There's a lot of wasted space when the GUI is maximized.

This is an acknowledged issue on some systems which is planned to be fixed in a future update. If you're on Windows, you can try adjusting the screen item scaling on the "Display" system panel - "Change the size of text, apps and other items", try setting this to 125% or 150% & it may be more comfortable. (But YMMV depending on what else you're running at the same time & whether that's comfortable at the existing scaling).

Anyhoo, if you work for Roli, why the f**k can't I buy a Lumi Keys? What's the difference between posting to a US city and one in another country.

It's the law, I'm afraid. Hardware certification, for safety and RF compliance, is country- or region-specific (one of many reasons why belonging to large trading blocs is a good idea... slow hand clap for the UK there). We're not allowed to ship to countries where the certification hasn't come through yet. The people responsible are working on it, but it takes time - more so as LUMI has some relatively fancy consumer electronics features (Bluetooth antenna, rechargeable lithium battery etc) that aren't typically present on music tech gear. I can try and find out how far off they think Australia is from being ready.

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:42 pm

himalaya wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:06 am
One wet-wipe would clean loads of Seaboards at NAMM and MusicMesse. I had to clean lots of them.

you should be using a diff one for each kybd, to stop cross contamination, especially in this day age

LoveEnigma18 · Post by **LoveEnigma18** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:43 pm

BONES wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:48 pm Are you blind or stupid? I just showed you a bunch of images that show that Equator's text is larger than most other synths, as well as being easier to read, and that their knobs are about the same size.

For some strange reason I am not able to see those images at all. But anyway, Angus has acknowledged this as an issue, so I will stop any discussions about it.

Angus_FX wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:05 pm
Again, wanna repeat for you: font text and knob sizes are on the smaller side. There's a lot of wasted space when the GUI is maximized.
This is an acknowledged issue on some systems which is planned to be fixed in a future update. If you're on Windows, you can try adjusting the screen item scaling on the "Display" system panel - "Change the size of text, apps and other items", try setting this to 125% or 150% & it may be more comfortable. (But YMMV depending on what else you're running at the same time & whether that's comfortable at the existing scaling).

Thanks a lot, Angus. I really appreciate it. I am indeed on Windows 10.

I appreciate the tip, but unfortunately and as expected, it is not convenient for me. I will prefer waiting for the fix instead.

macmuse · Post by **macmuse** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:52 pm

Good to know a wet cloth is safe for that surface. Once I used a wipe and thought I may have made a mistake.

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:03 pm

macmuse wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:52 pm Good to know a wet cloth is safe for that surface. Once I used a wipe and thought I may have made a mistake.

i think the word damp is key here, so no water droplets can make their way into any place water can damage (and use a dry cloth afterwards)

macmuse · Post by **macmuse** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:21 pm

Yes I did definitely make sure of that! I’ve just been using a dry microfiber cloth these days, plus I keep them under a cover when not in use. Thanks.

Roli: Equator 2 is here !