Massive X is the only one on the list that is a closed system... doesn't allow user drawn waves or wavetable import. For that reason I personally consider it only half a wavetable synth.biscuitdough wrote: ↑Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:59 pmThey've been discussed at length, but OP will only add them to the top post if the little survey is filled out. I guess nobody bothered.
Wavetable Blowout: Massive X vs Avenger vs Serum vs Icarus vs Pigments...
- KVRAF
- 25507 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
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- KVRAF
- 35486 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Maybe you don't consider it one, but, that doesn't matter really, as being a wavetable synth or not is not defined by being able to import user wavetables.
That said, I definitely hope they implement user wavetables in a future update. The only synth I own which lets you import user wavetables is Synthmaster One, and I don't really like its sound (unfortunately... dev is a good guy ).
- KVRAF
- 25507 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
What other wavetable synth doesn't have either user drawn waveforms or wavetable import? Seems kinda like a sampler that doesn't import samples.
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- KVRAF
- 35486 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
All the Waldorf synths (before Nave) for example. Coincidentally the synths which made wavetable popular in the first place.
Wavetable import is really no characteristic of wavetable synths in general. It's just something many modern wavetable synths have now. I agree it's useful. It's just not something which defines a wavetable synth.
Wavetable import is really no characteristic of wavetable synths in general. It's just something many modern wavetable synths have now. I agree it's useful. It's just not something which defines a wavetable synth.
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- KVRAF
- 2402 posts since 28 Sep, 2012
Massive X still sounds the best to me.
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- KVRian
- 1291 posts since 25 Jul, 2009
Didn't read the whole thread, but was wondering if anyone else uses and likes Steinberg's Flux wavetable synth? I do.
https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques ... x-capacity
https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques ... x-capacity
- KVRAF
- 25507 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Obviously it is a meaningless point in either case... but what wavetable synth made/sold today doesn't have this capability? It is a characteristic of wavetable synths today. No longer any memory issues like in old hardware synths. The PPG synths before being sold could create/import wavetables. My Waldorf Quantum imports waves (including 4096). IIRC, Largo doesn't... or does it? Basically every recent and new synth today does. MX is the runt of the litter.chk071 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:41 am All the Waldorf synths (before Nave) for example. Coincidentally the synths which made wavetable popular in the first place.
Wavetable import is really no characteristic of wavetable synths in general. It's just something many modern wavetable synths have now. I agree it's useful. It's just not something which defines a wavetable synth.
- KVRAF
- 2392 posts since 29 Jun, 2005 from La La Land
I agree. Massive X kicks the crap out of everything else out there right now. The feature set is amazing, and the awesome modern user experience is the coolest I've ever seen. Inspiring to say the least. Love the routing tab, and the performer also. From Cinematic to EDM, it's all there. My Maschine MK3 makes it a pleasure to browse the libraries. Totally in love with this synth.
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Alienware i7 R3 loaded with billions of DAWS and plugins.
Alienware i7 R3 loaded with billions of DAWS and plugins.
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- KVRist
- 141 posts since 23 Mar, 2019
There are at least a dozen features/improvements that I would like to see in Massive X. Wavetable import doesn't even make it onto the list. Be a boring world if we were all the same.
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- Banned
- 383 posts since 12 Mar, 2020 from Toilet, or on the way to toilet
And now we have a new entry to the Wavetable competition: Vital!
- KVRAF
- 25507 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Massive X has so many problems and limitations. I don't expect it to ever become a synth I will actually use, but maybe NI will surprise me. Since it is part of Komplete, I'm stuck with it. I do think the comb filter sounds great.
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- KVRAF
- 1863 posts since 11 Apr, 2008
I really would like to hear music of those who can't live without WT import option in synth. They must do original sounds that nobody else ever did. Otherwise it would be a pointless rant if they use WT import just to make sounds that can be done without this feature
- KVRAF
- 25507 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Here... I did this in Vital. For me, one of the main points of wavetable synthesis is I can use/create my own wavetables to do specific things.pixel85 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:23 pm I really would like to hear music of those who can't live without WT import option in synth. They must do original sounds that nobody else ever did. Otherwise it would be a pointless rant if they use WT import just to make sounds that can be done without this feature
https://dandelionaudio.com/sound/Vital-Vocal-1.mp3
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- KVRAF
- 1863 posts since 11 Apr, 2008
Cool sound indeed. I would be too lazy to create my own Wavetables (I don't mean importing 1 sample - that much I can do )pdxindy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:34 pmHere... I did this in Vital. For me, one of the main points of wavetable synthesis is I can use/create my own wavetables to do specific things.pixel85 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:23 pm I really would like to hear music of those who can't live without WT import option in synth. They must do original sounds that nobody else ever did. Otherwise it would be a pointless rant if they use WT import just to make sounds that can be done without this feature
https://dandelionaudio.com/sound/Vital-Vocal-1.mp3