Vember Audio Surge is now open-source
- KVRAF
- 23102 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Yeah, we have another person who got annoyed by that, and he happened to also be a cross-platform developer, and also owns C11 (we don't), so he will be debugging it and with luck also fixing for v1.8 (which is due mid-January).
Wait for official 1.8 release
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Danilo Villanova Danilo Villanova https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=418331
- KVRian
- 990 posts since 30 Apr, 2018
Noice!EvilDragon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:23 pm Yeah, we have another person who got annoyed by that, and he happened to also be a cross-platform developer, and also owns C11 (we don't), so he will be debugging it and with luck also fixing for v1.8 (which is due mid-January).
Wait for official 1.8 release
- KVRAF
- 23102 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
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The Nerdy Music Guy The Nerdy Music Guy https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=475847
- KVRist
- 172 posts since 7 Oct, 2020
After my demos that are a somewhat "out there", here is something more "traditional"
https://soundcloud.com/user-589036812-2 ... -1-x-surge
https://soundcloud.com/user-589036812-2 ... -1-x-surge
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The Nerdy Music Guy The Nerdy Music Guy https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=475847
- KVRist
- 172 posts since 7 Oct, 2020
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The Nerdy Music Guy The Nerdy Music Guy https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=475847
- KVRist
- 172 posts since 7 Oct, 2020
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- KVRian
- 671 posts since 8 Jan, 2005 from Germany
Does the smiley suggest, that we'll see a complete rework of the skin? And will it be possible to restructure the UI, similar to u-he's skinning scripts?
BTW: I've downloaded the latest nightly. The new filters and the MSEG editor are fantastic additions I didnt expect so many improvements I wish Hive had an MSEG editor like that. Selecting multiple anchors with a selection frame would be nice. Behavior/usability is on par with Serum MSEG's, i'd say. Great job!
Soundwise still the best free wavetable synth. Keep it up
- KVRAF
- 23102 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Not a complete rework, but a new coat of paint, both dark and classic skins updated, and if all goes well a secret third skin done by a quite well-known UI designer
Skin engine in 1.8 will be able to restructure an awful lot of the UI, with the exception of the FX sliders section (we will work on that for 1.9), and the MSEG editor.
We intend to improve on the skin engine even more for 1.9, adding tabs (will be required in order to be able to fully skin the FX section however we want), and certain planned features will definitely require a complete redesign of the layout. However the main trait of Surge - to have everything important on one page - is still paramount.
(Node multi-selection won't be in 1.8, but we have that jotted down for 1.9!)
Skin engine in 1.8 will be able to restructure an awful lot of the UI, with the exception of the FX sliders section (we will work on that for 1.9), and the MSEG editor.
We intend to improve on the skin engine even more for 1.9, adding tabs (will be required in order to be able to fully skin the FX section however we want), and certain planned features will definitely require a complete redesign of the layout. However the main trait of Surge - to have everything important on one page - is still paramount.
Thanks! We have actually went and investigated a number of synths that have MSEGs, discussed their pros and cons (we actually have UI/UX/HCI guys on the team!), and cherry-picked best features from them, in what we think is going to be one of nicest-to-use MSEGs out there. In my humble, biased opinion, I think we knocked the socks of Serum's not-quite-a-full-MSEG (it's more a custom LFO shape than anything)audiot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:06 pmBTW: I've downloaded the latest nightly. The new filters and the MSEG editor are fantastic additions I didnt expect so many improvements I wish Hive had an MSEG editor like that. Selecting multiple anchors with a selection frame would be nice. Behavior/usability is on par with Serum MSEG's, i'd say. Great job!
(Node multi-selection won't be in 1.8, but we have that jotted down for 1.9!)
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- KVRian
- 671 posts since 8 Jan, 2005 from Germany
EvilDragon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:22 pm Not a complete rework, but a new coat of paint, both dark and classic skins updated, and if all goes well a secret third skin done by a quite well known UI designer
Skin engine in 1.8 will be able to restructure an awful lot of the UI, with the exception of the FX sliders section (we will work on that for 1.9), and the MSEG editor.
We intend to improve on the skin engine even more for 1.9, adding tabs (will be required in order to be able to fully skin the FX section however we want), and certain planned features will definitely require a complete redesign of the layout. However the main trait of Surge - to have everything important on one page - is still paramount.
Thanks! We have actually went and investigated a number of synths that have MSEGs, discussed their pros and cons (we actually have UI/UX/HCI guys on the team!), and cherry-picked best features from them, in what we think is going to be one of nicest-to-use MSEGs out there. In my humble, biased opinion, I think we knocked the socks of Serum's not-quite-a-full-MSEG (it's more a custom LFO shape than anything)audiot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:06 pmBTW: I've downloaded the latest nightly. The new filters and the MSEG editor are fantastic additions I didnt expect so many improvements I wish Hive had an MSEG editor like that. Selecting multiple anchors with a selection frame would be nice. Behavior/usability is on par with Serum MSEG's, i'd say. Great job!
(Node multi-selection won't be in 1.8, but we have that jotted down for 1.9!)
All i can say is that i'm super exited for further changes
When the major tweaks are done, i can imagine doing a skin for Surge. I made a skin for TyrellN6 called Plastic Skin, which seems to be quite popular, due to Googles image search (sometimes my skin is the first match and sometimes plugmons excellent skin, when you google "tyrell skin" ... at least in my area). Havent done a lot for the open communites this year, but maybe next year
- KVRAF
- 23102 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
You're welcome to join on our Discord server, the skin engine that is in the nightlies is entirely usable and you can already do a solid lot with it. The documentation is not fully completed yet, but we can help you along the way.
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- KVRian
- 671 posts since 8 Jan, 2005 from Germany
Great! I'll look into docs within the next days. I have a lot of other stuff to do at the moment, but i'm seeing a lot of potential with the latest improvements. So yeah ... would be a pleasureEvilDragon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:16 pm You're welcome to join on our Discord server, the skin engine that is in the nightlies is entirely usable and you can already do a solid lot with it. The documentation is not fully completed yet, but we can help you along the way.
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The Nerdy Music Guy The Nerdy Music Guy https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=475847
- KVRist
- 172 posts since 7 Oct, 2020
Like EvilDragon said, if you have any questions, feel free to join the Discord server