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midi_transmission · Post by **midi_transmission** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:10 pm

srcodling wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:48 pm
kvotchin wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:57 pm Still none, lol.

Maybe $2.90, and I'd consider one or two. Maybe.
Out of curiosity, what do you prefer for mixing/mastering plugins that in your opinion have real value... While I much prefer pricing strategies like Valhalla and U-he, when I can pick up PA plugins for $30 or less I find they do a job that is well worth that money... but I'm no professional, so would love to hear constructive criticism and about better alternatives...

I prefer this pricing strategy too. You should have a look at TDR plugins. They have sales (one at the moment?) but they are still in the same categories as Valhalla or U-he. Very sustainable products with many quality updates for free. They are perfect for mastering and mixing on the highest high level while being very affordable. But they are no vintage color makers, rather clean and technical in a positive sense. But they are still the benchmark for this kind of task.

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:23 pm

Teksonik wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:30 pm [snip...]
Anyway it's just my opinion that I find PA's marketing tactics repulsive. Others will disagree. Such is the nature of opinions. So I won't discuss it any further. If you like PA's tactics by all means do business with them.

I agree with you. Back when PA was experimenting with sale prices and coupon codes, I started to get turned off them. That was after I acqured most of their catalogue. But in the middle of that era, I stopped buying PA. I do like many of their bx_ series and their analogue models, most are good. Thorn of course is fantastic and like you I wonder why DS gave that away to PA like that. But, like Waves, I no longer prioritize PA for purchases. I'll take a look at their new products and demo a but but unless the price is way low, I don't bother. Also I am not a fan of D*rk, to say the least.

BennyG · Post by **BennyG** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:29 pm

a_frikn_squirrel wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:49 am I too am waiting for that PA sale tomorrow. I've got a $20 off survey coupon that stacks but haven't decided what I'm gonna buy. Either Triade or one of the popular compressors (Elysia, SPL Iron, Shadow Hills, or something else someone catches me on!)

Just out of interest, how did you get the vouchers to stack? I still have the survey coupon knocking about, but you can't use it on a single $29 plugin, since the minimum spend is $39. I tried adding another cheap plugin to the basket, but it just applies the $29 to the cheap plugin and puts the price of the one I actually want back up to $199

imrae · Post by **imrae** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:37 pm

MasterTuner wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:13 pm On the other hand, Luftikus EQ (which is free) is very close to the PA model of the same plugin priced at $200.

Luftikus is better than EQ4 because it has a (decent) auto-gain option.

fywzheng · Post by **fywzheng** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:24 pm

I am selling my plugin alliance 249 voucher for only 150. Please PM me if interested.

Influx808 · Post by **Influx808** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:27 pm

I had a huge problem with the vat when I tried to purchase thorn it wouldn't let me to confirm the payment

macmuse · Post by **macmuse** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:36 pm

The nice thing about MetricAB is that you can save a bunch of 'playlists'. I have lists based on genre and also guitar-centric ones, each one containing about 10 or so songs that fit that category. That makes it really nice because the songs are already set up for me, I just click whatever list I want to use. And it can be changed and added to/deleted from at any time if you want to make room for new songs that come along.

escalona · Post by **escalona** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:49 pm

No PA plugins is worth $29

a_frikn_squirrel · Post by **a_frikn_squirrel** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:20 pm

BennyG wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:29 pm
a_frikn_squirrel wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:49 am I too am waiting for that PA sale tomorrow. I've got a $20 off survey coupon that stacks but haven't decided what I'm gonna buy. Either Triade or one of the popular compressors (Elysia, SPL Iron, Shadow Hills, or something else someone catches me on!)
Just out of interest, how did you get the vouchers to stack? I still have the survey coupon knocking about, but you can't use it on a single $29 plugin, since the minimum spend is $39. I tried adding another cheap plugin to the basket, but it just applies the $29 to the cheap plugin and puts the price of the one I actually want back up to $199

I didn't! For some reason I thought the voucher coupon didn't have a minimum and thus could be stacked

BennyG · Post by **BennyG** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:40 pm

Ah, no worries. Thanks for replying, I was worried I was missing something for a sec there.

scalawag · Post by **scalawag** » Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:53 pm

Is this $29 BF promo over?

MasterTuner · Post by **MasterTuner** » Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:01 pm

scalawag wrote: Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:53 pm Is this $29 BF promo over?

It ends in a few hours.
BFD3-2999 is the code I think

I picked up, SPL Vitalizer mk2-t, Elysia Alpha and Metric AB.
Metric AB is amazing, unbelievable for $29, although I did file a [minor] bug report for it.

scalawag · Post by **scalawag** » Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:04 pm

MasterTuner wrote: Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:01 pm
scalawag wrote: Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:53 pm Is this $29 BF promo over?
It ends in a few hours.
BFD3-2999 is the code I think

I picked up, SPL Vitalizer mk2-t, Elysia Alpha and Metric AB.
Metric AB is amazing, unbelievable for $29, although I did file a [minor] bug report for it.

Thank you!

_leras · Post by **_leras** » Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:30 pm

Teksonik wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:30 pm Here's an example of where my attitude from them comes....PA once had a sale on their bx_rooms reverb that listed for $199 and the sale price was $9.

I thought wow a $199 reverb for $9 how could I go wrong ? So I bought it without even demoing since I thought it's got to be worth $9. I was wrong. It's one of the worst sounding reverbs I've ever owned or tried. I'd use the freeware OrilRiver reverb long before I'd use bx_rooms. So Yea I was one of those suckers who fell for silly high list prices and low sales prices.

My fault, I should have demoed the plugin but for $9 I rolled the dice.

I've tried several of their other effects plugins and came to the same conclusion that they were average sounding...at best.

Don't take this the wrong way, but you're using it wrong.

The raw sound of bx_rooms is a little noisy and clangerous. It wouldn't be my first choice for everything... e.g. It'll never be a smooth giant hall reverb.

But... It can be a great tool in a mix on certain elements. You can get it to sit behind a sound and thicken it up and enhance how it sits in a mix. There are many ways to use a reverb and this does have its uses.

Try it this way in mix, then comment on it properly...

_leras · Post by **_leras** » Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:43 pm

Teksonik wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:59 pm
Yeah putting silly high list prices on average sounding plugins then putting them on sale for what they're actually worth in order to sucker people into buying them is terrible.

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Not to mentions their constant "All Plugins for $29" that does not in fact include ALL plugins.

It's been pretty widely discussed that plug ins get most of their sales early on and then fewer over time. To me, BX (and waves), are just trying to bring in sales off otherwise 'dead at full price' plug ins.

You don't have to buy them. So I don't see what the problem is.

If you were starting out now, for $150 you could pick up a great channel strip, awesome saturater, great bus compressor, another flavour or bus eq. All a great upgrade from any DAW tools for great value.

Also... Not sure it's accurate to say their plug ins are average. They have some really good tools. You can of course demo these.

What are your "must-have" Plugin Alliance plugins now that they are $29 ?